[arin-ppml] Set aside round deux

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Wed Jul 28 00:00:59 EDT 2010

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 21:29, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> Let me offer a rude viewpoint to gauge reaction: the 4.10 addresses
> shouldn't be available to the X-larges at all. Period. The X-larges
> have vast tracts of IPv4 addresses from which they can find a few to
> facilitate IPv4 function during the v6 transition. 4.10 addresses
> should be for folks who didn't have a lot of v4 addresses to start
> with and need just a few more to carry them through to v6 ubiiquity.
> Thoughts?

I think that any policy that intentionally favors or disfavors any
particular organization or group of organizations is not in the
interest of Internet stewardship.

If we want the Orgs with IP addresses to be fair, than mustn't we be
fair to them?

There are some (if not many) Orgs with a glut of addresses that are
not X-Large ISPs. Do they get a pass because they are not "XL?" The
problem with this kind of discrimination is that it is discrimination.
What we should focus on is efficient utilization, not organizational

As a completely arbitrary example: If a "smaller" Org serves 2500 end
users with a /20 and a "larger" Org serves 50,000 customers with a /16
who should be banned from getting new addresses? The smaller Org at
around 60% actual utilization or the larger Org who is over 75%?

If you are worried about vast tracts of IPs ripe for the plucking,
then let's write policy to find and recover those tracts - Or at least
to stop Orgs with those unused/underused resources from getting more.
Size, type, industry are not the issues here; efficient utilization


> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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