[arin-ppml] How bad is it really?
mysidia at gmail.com
Sat Jul 17 23:58:28 EDT 2010
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Sprunk <stephen at sprunk.org> wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2010 01:48, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> Before getting too worked up, please keep in mind that the fact that
>> the mail message was ACCEPTED by your mail system and not immediately
>> bounced, indicates that there's a valid e-mail box there.
> No, it does not. I'm aware of at least one firewall appliance that
> "accepts" all mail submitted to any address and, after doing some
> security checks, blindly forwards it to an internal smarthost (which
I will agree some spam traps catch mail sent to non-existent e-mail addresses
("domain catch-all e-mail rule"), and pretend that delivery has
succeeded, while discarding the message.
It is possible the e-mail address was deleted, or the mailbox is no
longer checked by a human (abandoned but still existent mailbox).
It may also be possible that a completely different new person now
owns the mailbox.
ex: mailbox was deleted, 6-12 months later, a new person with a
similar name joined the organization,
and they would end up with the exact same e-mail address that used to
belong to a contact.
>> I'd hazard a guess that if you didn't click on the link at all that
>> ARIN is going to still consider the POC "most likely valid".
What point would there be even sending the link if a user not
clicking on it would fail to indicate that the record was invalid?
It would make about as much sense as sending them a link to click on
if "their e-mail address was no longer operational"
A contact that cannot even act on a request to verify themselves
(especially if multiple reminders to verify are sent), is not a
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