[arin-ppml] Petition Underway - Policy Proposal 95: Customer Confidentiality - Time Sensitive

Aaron Wendel aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Fri Jan 29 19:12:14 EST 2010

>You can support the idea but not the proposal.  I definitely don't
>support the proposal.  I am willing to look at the idea, however.  If
>you can make a logical argument that the current policy as written
>makes it impossible for ISP's to exclude private individuals or
>residences in certain circumstances, I'd support a modification to
>current policy.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.  Residential customers are already
covered under a separate policy allowing them to be deemed "private".  My
proposal provides equal protection for hosted and collocated customers.

>You and the other supporters want to re-open discussion, because you
>clearly aren't willing to re-read the archives as to why this kind
>of proposal is generally a bad idea.  Well, OK.  I guess sometimes
>people don't want to read boring old archives and prefer the lively
>give and take of discussion.  I think it's
>a diverting waste of time but since there's enough people that appear
>to need it, I'll do my duty as an opponent and try to show you of
>the error of your ways.

And on this I will go so far as to say you have no idea what you're talking
about.  I've read all the archives from 6 years ago.  I don't agree with the
conclusion, feel that it is outdated and that ARIN membership and
participation has changed significantly enough that this topic deserves
revisiting.  I've talked to many people who think this policy already exists
and when they are educated can't believe how stupid it is that it doesn't.
The previous proposal that failed is from 2004.  It failed 20-7.  27 votes.
Almost that many people have weighed in on this topic just in the last 24
hours.  I feel it deserves to go to a vote.

Hopefully, in the mean time, we can have a reasonable discussion on the
topic without people calling other people spammers, child molesters or
communists and come to a compromise that everyone can live with.


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