[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 108: Eliminate the term license inthe NRPM
mysidia at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 00:11:27 EST 2010
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:48 AM, <michael.dillon at bt.com> wrote:
>> > Not if you understand the history of IP addressing. They
>> have always
>> > been loaned out to organizations who have technical
>> A loan is a conditional transfer of property rights.
> I did not say "a loan was made", I said they have been
> loaned out. Whether or not this loaning out constitutes
"Making a loan" means the same thing as "lending". You want to say
IP addresses should be clearly indicated as not property, and then you
are using words in discussion that imply they are.
It's a bit confusing to say IP addresses aren't property, and then use
words like "lend" that imply they are property that someone
temporarily confers, instead of selling or transferring, okay.
Let's back up a bit... and say if the IP address itself is indeed
not property: then neither assignee nor ARIN _OWN_ IPs.
Because they are not property, nobody can "lend" IP addresses.
Nobody can "license" the legal use of IP addresses, because
ownership or some other exclusive right would be required to do these
things. Nobody can transfer or assign property rights to IP
Perhaps these words like "lend" are being used in attempt to compare
something more complicated using everyday terms that are simple (but
Any of the above words like "lend" or "license" when used seem to
strongly suggest that the "IP address" itself is an owned object
that ARIN had acquired legal ownership of and confers some exclusive
legally protected monopoly to the use of that IP number, when
configuring hosts on a network.
Policy could be less-confusing by referring to other things owned
besides the IP address,
For example, the "act of assigning an IP address", or the
slot in ARIN's contact database. Recognition of user of the IP
address by the registry.
E.g. The registry confers to the user allocated IP address
space by the registry, the special right, to be reported by the
registry as a legitimate unique assignee of that IP address space,
according and within that registry.
They don't get a license to the address space, instead they get
provided a service by ARIN.
The service that ARIN performs is to provide contact information to
the internet community and provide verification that they were
assigned that address space by the registry (through WHOIS and
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