[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 108: Eliminate the term license in the NRPM
john.sweeting at twcable.com
Tue Feb 16 08:37:23 EST 2010
This was discussed among AC, ARIN Counsel and ARIN staff and it was felt that a policy was the best course as the PDP brings the most attention to a matter. While this is not intended to modify policy, we did not consider it a "minor" edit of the NRPM. Since we did not consider it a minor edit then we decided a proposal would be the best vehicle for change. This will have a full Legal review by ARIN counsel.
On 2/15/10 12:29 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
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> Policy Proposal 108: Eliminate the term license in the NRPM
> Proposal Originator: David Farmer
> Proposal Version: 1.0
> Date: 2 February 2010
> Proposal type: modify
> Policy term: Permanent
> Policy statement:
> Delete section 6.4.1 and replace with a new section;
> 1.1 Number resources are not property
> To serve the interests of the Internet community as a whole, number
> resources are not property (real, personal, or intellectual). The
> allocation and assignment of IP addresses, ASNs, and other number
> resources are subject to the terms of the ARIN Registration Services
> Agreement, the policies in this document, and any amendments as may be
> made to either one.
> Modify section 11.4 by removing "on a lease/license basis", leaving the
> 11.4 Resource Allocation Term and Renewal
> The Numbering Resources are allocated for a period of one year. The
> allocation can be renewed on application to ARIN providing information
> as per Detail One. The identity and details of the applicant and the
> allocated Numbering Resources will be published under the conditions of
> ARIN's normal publication policy. At the end of the experiment,
> resources allocated under this policy will be returned to the available
> As part of the discussion of Policy Proposal #106 the issue of the use
> of the term "license" in section 6.4.1 and that it is not likely in
> harmony with the ARIN Registration Services Agreement was recognized.
> The AC feels that this issue is important enough to make it a separate
> Draft Policy that stands on its own.
> This section could not be fixed by simple editorial changes and it
> requires a complete rewrite in order to fix the issues. It was further
> recognized that the concept that "Number resources are not property" is
> not exclusively an IPv6 issue and should be moved out of section 6, so
> that it is clear that it applies to all number resources.
> Finally, the rest of the NRPM was searched for any additional uses of
> the term "license". One additional use was found in section 11.4, in
> this case deleting it and a few other words surrounding it, fixes the
> issue without significantly changing the meaning of the section.
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
We (my org) opposes this policy proposal.
We feel that changes of this nature - namely a change that has a
stated goal of NOT modifying the intent of the NRPM, merely clarifying
it - are best made by counsel.
This policy proposal does not belong here. If the proposers intent is
to eliminate "bad language" in the NRPM WITHOUT changing the meaning of
the NRPM, it is best accomplished via the Suggestion Box, through a
request to have ARIN counsel review the document and make the edits,
then submit them to the membership via the policy proposal process.
If ARIN counsel decides the edits are unwarranted, then they will
respond with why that is the case, and that will be that.
ARIN counsel has to use the NRPM when ARIN is sued court, that is
what they are paid to do. They are paid by us (ARIN) to (among other
things) inform us of deficiencies in the NRPM that would imped their
ability to use the NRPM to do the job we are paying them.
Proposals of this type need to originate from ARIN counsel, not the
other way around.
If the submitter actually wishes to modify policy intent, then that is
a different thing. But this proposal is being pitched specifically as
NOT a modification of policy intent.
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