[arin-ppml] Petition Underway - Policy Proposal 95: CustomerConfidentiality - Time Sensitive

Sweeting, John john.sweeting at twcable.com
Thu Feb 4 08:15:17 EST 2010

Good morning All,

Please use the current thread Draft Policy 2010-3: Customer Confidentiality for future posts either supporting or opposing this draft policy. It will make it far easier to judge the review the discussion while preparing for the upcoming PPM in Toronto. Also it would be a great help if you state your stance in the post. Thanks!



On 2/3/10 8:59 PM, "James Hess" <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Charles O'Hern <charles at office.tcsn.net> wrote:
> Quite to the contrary,  a single server chassis is perfectly capable of
> justifying more than the one address that a /30 would provide.  A single

If there is an an  Apache process and a  Sendmail process on the same
OS install, each each using a different host address from the
IP-Aliased interfaces.    Then it is two servers.   Even if there is
only one piece of metal  powering these servers.

>> Important networks should have someone on call 24x7.  <snipped all after>
> 'Important' is subjective (as are my opinions of course).  Currently the

The matter of importance is to be judged by the network providing the contact.

Important means:   it  would be at least as damaging or costly to the
organization to have the upstream providers simply unplug the entire
network due to a serious issue  as it costs to have a  24x7  contact
and operator able to properly address any issue  that occurs during
their off-hours.

If the network does not reach that level of importance, then there
should be no issue using an  8x5  contact.

> Point 1: As, in common usage, the smallest network that can be
> advertised via BGP is a /24. Traffic originating from a re-assigned
> network smaller than /24 can not be transit independent of the ISP that

This is not entirely the case.    A  /25  or smaller  can be
advertised, with the proper arrangements.

Often just to the immediate upstream provider  (and many their
customers may accept).  But if the end-user is multi-homed,  with all
major Tier 1s,  they can arrange to have broad connectivity
independent of their ISP, advertising only /25s.

This may become more common after IPv4  exhaustion, and larger blocks
are not easily available.

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