[arin-ppml] Discussion Petition of ARIN-prop-125 Efficient Utilization of IPv4 Requires Dual-Stack

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Mon Dec 27 18:06:42 EST 2010

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Robert E. Seastrom <rs at seastrom.com> wrote:
> William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> writes:
>>> I must take issue with your suggestion that the AC "dropped the ball".
>> Allow me to rephrase: IF the AC dumps even a modest proposal to tie
>> continued eligibility for IPv4 to deployment of IPv6 THEN I would
>> consider the AC to have dropped the ball and would therefore support a
>> petition to override the AC's judgment.
> I don't think that phrase ("dropped the ball") means what you think it
> does.  "Does the AC agree with Bill Herrin" is a question orthogonal
> to "Is the AC following the PDP".


You suggest that if the AC is in letter-compliance with the PDP then
it automatically means that they're properly following through on
policy proposals of interest to the community? Or do you just offer
the ad-hominem argument that I can't distinguish between my personal
opinion on a particular policy proposal versus the propriety of the
AC's follow-though as it evaluates the degree of interest expressed by
those participants who are not AC?

In this particular case, I think the AC got it right on both counts: a
strong policy-level linkage between IPv4 and IPv6 use is unhealthy (my
opinion) AND few in the community have expressed a desire to see
anything close to that heavy-handed a linkage between IPv4 and IPv6
implemented in ARIN policy.

Shall we leave it there or do you really want to pick a fight?

>I do not believe this problem will be solved with policy.  I believe
>that the economics of the transfer market vs. the equipment market
>will make the proper course of action crystal clear at the CxO level
>over the next couple of years and does not require policy action.

I wouldn't bet money against that viewpoint. But for better or for
worse I have observed a growing amount of community interest in some
form of linking continued IPv4 availability to IPv6 use. If you're
paying attention, you've noticed it too.


William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004

More information about the ARIN-PPML mailing list