[arin-ppml] Why should we do Proposal 121
bill at herrin.us
Fri Dec 10 22:46:54 EST 2010
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Jack Bates <jbates at brightok.net> wrote:
> On 12/9/2010 8:15 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>> Can you suggest a scenario in which a a subordinate /32 allocation is
>> unambiguously appropriate on the technical merits versus the same ARIN
>> allocation directly to the subordinate ISP?
> I can. I manage an ISP; except in my case, I have no end user customers.
> What I have is a company that pools resources for 12 ILEC ISPs. I am their
> LIR, I manage servers for them. I even manage their routers and address
> assignments for most of them. Even the multihomed ones have their ASN
> through me, not ARIN.
Thanks Jack, I appreciate your insight here. Let me ask a couple
follow up questions:
When you say "manage resources for them," do you mean number
resources, as in you stay on top of the registry and IP address issues
so that they don't have to? Or do you provide a smorgasbord of
ISP-related resources in bulk, branded email services and so forth,
basically a deal where they managed the sales operation and whatever
technical components they find advantageous and buy the rest from you?
You kind of focused your comments on the price benefit to pooling
requests to ARIN. The fee for a /28 split 12 ways is a good bit less
than the 12 times the fee for a /32. I assume there's also a financial
benefit to needing only one ARIN policy specialist who can manage the
ARIN interactions versus each of the 12 needing to have one of their
guys fully up to speed and presumably ARIN gains efficiencies from
dealing with one expert instead of 12 amateurs.
Do you experience any purely technical benefits from pooling the ISPs'
requests, or are they all these sort of process benefits? By technical
benefit, I mean something like aggregated prefixes in the routing
table. If so, can you tell us a little more about it?
William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
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