[arin-ppml] Regarding interesting times ahead...

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Tue Dec 7 14:07:48 EST 2010

On 12/7/10 13:03 CST, Heather Schiller wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM, John Curran<jcurran at arin.net>  wrote:
>> On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:46 AM, George Bonser wrote:
>>> Yup.  As soon as "Company with lots of full time lawyers on staff" tries
>>> to get an allocation and can't, it is going to be hell.
>> Indeed, it's going to be quite an interesting time.  I believe it will be
>> important for us to be clear that not all hope is lost, i.e. under current
>> resource  policy firms will still be able to qualify for up to 3 months of
>> space and then can either wait to see if such returned space comes available
>> to them via the waiting list, or they can find someone who has space that
>> could be potentially freed up&  work with them to receive a specified transfer
>> (of up to 12 months space per documented need) under NRPM 8.3.
> 12 months under 8.3 transfer post IANA exhaust?  I understood it as 3 months:
> "8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients
> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources
> within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized
> resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another
> specified organizational recipient. Such transferred number resources
> may only be received under RSA by organizations that are within the
> ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a
> single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under
> current ARIN policies."
> At the time of IANA depletion, ARIN drops to a 3 month allocation
> window -- which would be the 'current ARIN policy' in question.
> Well, if 12months is the case, that certainly is interesting, and I'm
> not sure it is what the community intended... Certainly makes it more
> enticing for folks to go out and try to scare up an 8.3 transfer and
> put off deploying v6 a bit :(
> Can you clarify/verify?

The current NRPN says;

---- Subscriber Members After One Year

After an organization has been a subscriber member of ARIN for one year, 
they may choose to request up to a 12-month supply of IP addresses.

When ARIN receives its last /8, by IANA implementing section, 
the length of supply that an organization may request will be reduced. 
An organization may choose to request up to a 3-month supply of IP 

This reduction does not apply to resources received via section 8.3. An 
organization receiving a transfer under section 8.3 may continue to 
request up to a 12-month supply of IP addresses.

It is this last paragraph that comes into play, this is what Marty and I 
were just discussing in regards to PP#124, which would remove this.

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