[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 112: Utilization of 10.4.2 resources only via explicit policy

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Fri Apr 30 16:43:58 EDT 2010


Hello Joe, George, community

I am the AC's policy shepherd assigned to this policy proposal.
I will be taking a passive role in monitoring the pro's and con's, the for's and against's.  I will also take an active role if I think further or different inquiry is needed on the subject, or if I am troubled by language or concepts that I believe need clarifying.

To that later end, I wonder, Joe, at your use of the language below...suggesting that existing policy in the assignment and/or allocation of /8 addresses is a 'squandering' of those resources.

If that were true, would you not be better off to proposal policy that remedies those ills?

Bill Darte
ARIN AC


-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Joe Maimon
Sent: Fri 4/30/2010 3:04 PM
To: George, Wes E IV [NTK]
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 112: Utilization of 10.4.2 resources only via explicit policy
 
Hi George,

This /8 is not given to ARIN based upon need. It is given based upon its 
status as the last one available from the free pool. There is no 
implicit assumption that it should go to fill needs in the same manner 
as all previous ones. I see no reason that it should be squandered in 
the same manner as all the rest have without at minimum due 
consideration as to possible alternates.

If there wont be enough time to work out policy for this last /8 while 
holding it in reserve, then there definitely will not be time to work 
out policy before it is consumed -- too late. On the other hand, the 
policy process does have the ability to move quickly, such as the 
emergency pdp process.

4.10 is possibly not enough. We do not know yet.

Joe

George, Wes E IV [NTK] wrote:
> I oppose this proposal. Justified use and allocation of IPv4 address space under ARIN's current policy is justified use regardless of whether it is the last /8 or not. I agree that there are some reasons to hold addresses in reserve for transition items, but the existing policy already makes provision for that in the form of a /10. It is impossible to say that we as a community will know (and more importantly, agree on) 100% of the reasons why addresses should be allocated in the 10.4.2 endgame and can get them all documented in the policy process in a reasonable amount of time so that this is not an overly inflexible and limiting rule for ARIN staff and users of IPv4 space.
>
> Thanks,
> Wes
>
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> Policy Proposal Name: Utilization of 10.4.2 resources only via explicit
> policy
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> Proposal Originator: Joe Maimon
>
> Proposal Version: 1.0
>
> Date: 29 April 2010
>
> Proposal type: New
>
> Policy term: permanent
>
> Policy statement:
>
> Add section 4.11
>
> 4.11 Last /8 utilization
>
> Resources received from IANA under section 10.4.2 (the last /8) will be
> unavailable for any purposes not explicitly specified, such as 4.10, and
> will be held in reserve.
>
> Rationale:
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> No reason to blow the last /8 as quickly as all the others.
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> Timetable for implementation: Concurrently with 10.4
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