[arin-ppml] ARIN Policy Clarification: Micro-Allocations

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat Apr 24 14:55:07 EDT 2010


I will leave my opinion of Mr. Palmer's proposal out for now, but, I would like to clarify that at this time, this is merely a discussion. To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Palmer has not submitted an actual proposal to modify ARIN policy. If he or anyone else would like to do so, they are welcome to.  More information on submitting a policy proposal can be found at:

https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html

Owen

On Apr 24, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Joe Baptista wrote:

> I'm going to take this opportunity to offer my support for this proposal. However, I would like to stress and make very clear that under no circumstances does my support for this proposal in any way constitute an endorsement or support of the root services discussed below by Mr. Palmer. In fact I do not consider Mr. Palmer's root system to qualify as viable root infrastructure.
> 
> John and I have discussed this at length on the GA. When ARIN develops policy it is critical that a certain measure of responsibility be taken to properly qualify the allocation. Critical infrastructure implies some degree of trust or approval or approval by a government body or standard be applied to justify the allocation.
> 
> It's completely understandable why ARIN would allocate the duty to ICANN. Technically ICANN runs a trusted root. Even with the mess recently in Beijing - this root works. So John the next question is - why should we trust your root? Whats behind it. Root operation implies a great deal of power over the user. Why should a user trust you and your root?
> 
> Because if you do take up the challenge proposed by members here i.e. to provide a revision to policy - then please address the trust issue.
> 
> That said I can proceed to agree with Palmer that the policy is discriminatory towards other existing root systems outside the IANA core. There has been considerable growth in non-ICANN root service over the years and I expect that will increase as more and more people discover that running their own roots is the most viable way to guarantee security. I'm sure all of you are aware of the recent hijacking of root server "I" in Beijing. That root service is still offline as far as I'm aware.
> 
> I also strongly object that countries were not included. I don't know if we can trust the worldroot - but I know we can trust countries to be responsible for their critical infrastructure. The policy should be revised to reflect this. I'm against having ICANN as the sole party responsible for making a decision on this allocation. The same trust ARIN is showing ICANN should be extended to national governments.
> 
> And national governments should object to this type of policy being included in any other RIR.
> 
> Also John .. I offer you my help in drafting such a document. Your position on the discriminatory issues is correct. But I'm sure you will agree minimum standards and trust issues should be well addressed in opening up critical infrastructure allocations.
> 
> Now with IPv6 - I think critical infrastructure should be assigned to any tom dick or harry who applies. There's so much IPv6 space you can assign critical infrastructure to everyone on the planet. Let marketing establish who's trusted and who's not.
> 
> Thats my two cents.
> 
> regards
> joe baptista 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:27 AM, John Palmer <jpalmer at american-webmasters.net> wrote:
> In the "ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual" is the following section on micro allocations
> "4.4. Micro-allocation
> ARIN will make micro-allocations to critical infrastructure providers of the Internet, including public exchange points, core DNS service providers (e.g. ICANN-sanctioned root, gTLD, and ccTLD operators) as well as the RIRs and IANA. These allocations will be no longer than a /24 using IPv4 or a /48 using IPv6. Multiple allocations may be granted in certain situations. - Exchange point allocations MUST be allocated from specific blocks reserved only for this purpose. All other micro-allocations WILL be allocated out of other blocks reserved for micro-allocation purposes. ARIN will make a list of these blocks publicly available. - Exchange point operators must provide justification for the allocation, including: connection policy, location, other participants (minimum of two total), ASN, and contact information. ISPs and other organizations receiving these micro-allocations will be charged under the ISP fee schedule, while end-users will be charged under the fee schedule for end-users. This policy does not preclude exchange point operators from requesting address space under other policies."
> 
> The part the concerns me is that part that says "e.g. ICANN-sanctioned root, gTLD and ccTLD operators".
> 
> Excuse me, but since when do DNS operators have to be ICANN sanctioned? You know that there is such a thing called the Inclusive Namespace. ICANN is not the only authorized root network operator.
> 
> ARIN is supposed to support the whole community, not just the DNS services sanctioned by ICANN.
> 
> I would like to propose to the ARIN board that the phrase "(e.g. ICANN-sanctioned root, gTLD and ccTLD operators)" be replaced with "(root, gTLD and ccTLD operators)".
> 
> My company manages and operates the WorldRoot, an Inclusive Namespace root network and would like to have 13 micro-allocations for Anycast operations of our 13 DNS server sets around the world as well as IP6 microallocations in the near future.  As it stands, we will probably be able to populate 3 to 4 complete cloneSets (13 servers each) in the next 3 to 5 years. The language in Section 4.4 of the NRPM seems to exclude our ability to obtain the neccesary number resources and is discriminatory to the Inclusive Namespace and therefore in violation of ARIN's mission to serve the ENTIRE North American community.
> 
> ARIN Board - please take note of my request and respond.
> 
> Thanks
> John Palmer - President
> American Webmasters Inc
> (operator of the WorldRoot root server network - http://worldroot.net)
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