[arin-ppml] Comments on Draft Policy 2010-3: Customer Confidentiality

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Tue Apr 6 16:36:33 EDT 2010

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 14:10, Wes Young <wes at ren-isac.net> wrote:
> Yes. But if it's all obfuscated by the upstream isp, we still have to go
> through the upstream to get to the downstream (unfettered access to "last
> mile" contact information is how we meant it).
> example: i have an address, I whois it and it comes back the ISP name, but
> Verizon's contact phone number (as an example) and address. I have to now
> jump through hoops with verizon to "get access" to their customer. I may be
> able to share that information with verizon, I may not. Either way, it add's
> a significant cost.
> Or at-least that was my interpretation.
> It is my understanding that the "database can be obtained" is valid, my
> question is "will that data contain the last-mile information, or whatever
> the up-stream throws in there"?
> My perception was "no, it will not" given the clause:
> "The customer's actual information must be provided to ARIN on request and
> will be held in the strictest confidence."
> given that ARIN will no longer warehouse this data (again, this is how *I*
> read it anyway). Please correct me if i'm missing something obvious
> though...

You are not wrong Wes.  If this policy were to pass, every ISP with an
ARIN allocation could obfuscate the SWIPs for all space allocated to
them. This would cause exactly the disaster you have described.

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> Wes
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