[arin-ppml] [ppml] alternative realities (was PIv6 for legacy holders (/wRSA + efficient use)) (fwd)

[Warren Johnson]

No one is debating that managing the (non-herbal) pot for the common good
does not make sense.  Unfortunately we don't live in the Star Trek - Next
Generation universe where humans, and other life forms, do things for the
advancement of civilization.  It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that
basically monied interests run everything in this world and dictate policy.
Look how hard of a time we're having in the USA getting healthcare reform
pushed through. Why should this be any different with a market such as IPv4
addresse.s I guess the problem is we've not been looking at these addresses
as a market or an asset, but as a freely distributable item.  



 

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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:58 AM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [ppml] alternative realities (was PIv6 for legacy
holders (/wRSA + efficient use)) (fwd)

Now that my girl Elinor Ostrom has won the noble prize for economics, I
thought I'd re-forward this post of two years ago with a couple of updated
links.

The Core Challenges of Moving Beyond Garrett Hardin
http://dlc.dlib.indiana.edu/dlc/handle/10535/2662
Basurto, Xavier; Ostrom, Elinor

The Internet commons: towards an eclectic theoretical framework
http://www.thecommonsjournal.org/index.php/ijc/article/view/111/106

I still think managing the pot for the common good benefits us all in the
long run....

- Lucy

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:03:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lucy Lynch <llynch at civil-tongue.net>
To: David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org>
Cc: ppml at arin.net, Paul Vixie <paul at vix.com>
Subject: Re: [ppml] alternative realities (was PIv6 for legacy holders
(/wRSA +
     efficient use))

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, David Conrad wrote:

> On Jul 31, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>> can each extant enterprise /8 be carved up into 64K /24's without 
>> exploding the global routing table / default free zone / internet 
>> core?
>
> I'm told YFRV have indicated we're currently at 10% what routers today 
> can handle and by the time we see the shattering of legacy space into 
> the routing system, the limits will be much higher.
> Plenty o' room...
>
> NOTE: I do not believe this, however the people paying the bills will 
> use arguments along these lines in CEO and board room discussions and 
> guess where network operators' input will land?
>
> Anyhow, there won't be an explosion.  As Randy points out elsewhere, 
> routing table growth is boiling the frog. See http://en.wikipedia.org/ 
> wiki/Boiling_frog or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
> Tragedy_of_the_commons (Wikipedia is great! :-)).

commons isn't quite right - common pool closer -

"Common pool resources (CPR) are characterised by the difficulty of
excluding actors from using them and the fact that the use by one individual
or group means that less is available for use by others. (The latter point
distinguishes CPR from pure public goods which exhibit both non
excludability and non rivalry in consumption). CPRs include some fisheries,
irrigation systems and grazing areas. Also: A valued natural or human-made
resource or facility in which one person's use subtracts from another's use
and [from which] it is often necessary but difficult to exclude potential
users."

Jointly managing the common-pool is tough and we (collective we:
IANA/RIRs/ISPs/vendors/standards folk/etc.) will need to show a very high
level of co-ordination, fairness, and foresight if we want to have continued
governmental support for the current distributed model of resource
allocation.

A relevant paper from the CPR field:

Common Property,Regulatory Property, and Environmental Protection:.
Comparing Community-Based Management to Tradable Environmental Allowances
Carol M. Rose (2000)
http://dlc.dlib.indiana.edu/archive/00000333/00/rosec041200.pdf

and for some idea of the scale of resources and planning needed to pull off
multi-stakehold common-pool management see:

The Millennium Ecosystem Assessment assessed the consequences of ecosystem
change for human well-being. From 2001 to 2005, the MA involved the work of
more than 1,360 experts worldwide. Their findings provide a state-of-the-art
scientific appraisal of the condition and trends in the worlds ecosystems
and the services they provide, as well as the scientific basis for action to
conserve and use them sustainably...

http://www.millenniumassessment.org/en/Index.aspx

and for a fairly depressing read on how shared resourses drift toward
private property see:

Establishing Ownership: First Possession versus Accession (Thomas Merrill)
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1174&context=berke
ley_law_econ

- Lucy

> Rgds,
> -drc
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