[arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Wed May 27 17:57:58 EDT 2009


Brian,
I think what Paul was saying is that 2008-6 is a done deal, and without a
new policy to supercede it then community consensus et.al. no longer
applies.  It is what it is.

Paul, 
I apologise if I paraphrased you badly or out of context.  If I did please
do not let it stand.  What I understood may not have been what you said.

Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Brian Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:35 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Is 2008-6 receiving wide approval by the community? Does this policy
> coincide with the ARIN charter and the goals of the organization?
> 
> Perhaps this is the issue?
> 
> Just my .02
> 
> - Brian
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
> On
> > Behalf Of Paul Vixie
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:49 PM
> > To: ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment
> >
> > these two messages bring up an important question.
> >
> > kkargel at polartel.com ("Kevin Kargel") writes:
> >
> > > My problem is the outright sale of space to a designated party
> > without
> > > transfer of network assets and without making the space available to
> > the
> > > community at large as is allowed in 8.3.  This creates an enormous
> > > potential for unfair practice giving the large players a huge
> > advantage.
> >
> > jay at impulse.net (Jay Hennigan) writes:
> >
> > > I am opposed to this proposal as written.  I would support it if
> > section
> > > 8.3 were stricken in its entirety.
> >
> > is everyone fully aware that a version of this same policy has already
> > been
> > approved (2008-6) and stands to go into effect on june 1, and that
> > what's
> > being discussed here is a cleaned up version (2009-1)?
> >
> > that means, opposition to 2009-1's proposed 8.3 in ignorance of 2008-
> > 6's
> > effective 8.3 won't help any cause.  to stop address space transfers
> > from
> > taking place apart from acquisitions, would require a new transfer
> > policy
> > that undid the effect of 2008-6.  2009-1 will not be *that* policy.
> > --
> > Paul Vixie
> > KI6YSY
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