[arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue May 26 17:47:09 EDT 2009

Kevin Kargel wrote:
> Being that 2009-1 is listed as under discussion on ppml on
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html, I want to make another
> comment.  Section 8-2 is make completely superfluous as any transfers for
> the purpose of mergers and acquisitions could just as easily be handled
> under the sell it to anyone you want clauses in section 8-3.

Bear in mind that 8.3 only applies to IPv4, whereas 8.2 also applies to 
IPv6 addresses and ASNs.

As Bill mentioned, I think this is one of many places in the NRPM that 
could use some cleanup.  Unfortunately, trying to do cleanup in the same 
proposal as a substantive change causes even more confusion and 
controversy, so I've tried to hold off on doing the cleanup until we get 
finished with the substantive changes.

(Particularly as a member of the AC) I would love to see proposals from 
the community indicating which areas of the policy manual, like this 
one, are most in need of cleanup.


> If you can sell IP addresses (transfer for monetary consideration if you
> don't like the word sell) to anyone for any reason, adding criteria to
> transfer address space for specific purposes already covered by the general
> clause is unnecessary.
> Either section 8-2 or 8-3 should be stricken from the proposal, as the
> inclusion of both is excessive and redundant verbiage. 
> I find it contradictory that section 8-1 avers that "It should be understood
> that number resources are not "sold" under ARIN administration." Yet there
> is verbiage to specifically allow number resources to be sold in section
> 8-3.  If we include language that facilitates the sale of IP address space
> then we should remove the verbiage stating that IP addresses are not sold.
> Leaving both in place shows the world that we talk out of both sides of our
> face.
> Continuing my past statements, I oppose this policy so long as section 8-3
> exists.  I would support this policy as written without section 8-3.
> Best regards,
> Kevin Kargel
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