[arin-ppml] Will the price per IP really be affected by thetransfer market introduced in 2009-1?

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Thu May 14 11:09:30 EDT 2009

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Will the price per IP really be affected by
> thetransfer market introduced in 2009-1?
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, but your point is dependent on how an ISP views it's market.
> >
> [ snip ]
> > If transfer pricing does not rise high enough to make it worthwhile
> > for orgs to spend the money to renumber out of it, then the
> > orgs won't, and the transfer market will never come into
> > existence.
> The transfer market already exists.

The sanctioned transfer market does not exist.  How many IP's did you buy in
a "transfer market" this year?  How many eBay auctions for netblocks have
you seen?  

> > Thus, let me put my original question a bit differently.  How much
> > of an increase for IPv4 can YOU absorb?  How much do you think
> > your competitors can absorb?  How much do you think the industry
> > can absorb?  If it's not a large amount, then how exactly will
> > a transfer market in IPv4 reach critical mass to enable it to
> > get started?
> You wouldn't  "absorb" anything. If you spent(cost) $10K per month
> leasing IPv4 address space and that could be correlated to a return on
> the expense (growth, revenue), where is the problem?

Of course you won't "absorb" anything..  the cost will be passed to the end
user.  That doesn't make it right.

> Best,
> Martin
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