[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy - Revised andforwarded to the Board

Stephen Sprunk stephen at sprunk.org
Fri May 8 14:10:34 EDT 2009

Kevin Kargel wrote:
> I believe the proof of what I am talking about is all of the unused IPv4 space that is not being returned so that it can be held as a speculative
> commodity.  Inaction in itself is a proof.

You are assigning a motive without proof.  Yes, there is a lot of space 
out there that could be returned and hasn't been.  I believe that in the 
vast majority of cases it is abandoned, forgotten, or is being used 
inefficiently and there is insufficient motivation to renumber.  I have 
seen all of these cases in the wild many, many times; I have _never_ 
been told "we won't return that space because we're hoping to sell it 
one day."

My motivation for supporting liberalized transfers is to apply a 
financial incentive to correct all of the problems above that I _have_ 
seen.  If companies hear that they can get money for giving up space, 
many (but not all) of them are going to do an inventory and find out 
what they have but don't actually need so that they can cash in.  Would 
I prefer altruistic motivation?  Certainly.  We've been trying that for 
a couple of decades now, and it has resulted in a few returns, but 
nowhere near as many as I'd hoped -- or as many as the community will 
need in a few years.  It's time to quit pretending that altruism is 


Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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