[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy - Revised andforwarded to the Board

Michael K. Smith - Adhost mksmith at adhost.com
Wed May 6 23:22:46 EDT 2009

> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >> Rather than helping the problem the fact that this market is
> >> being discussed is exactly what is causing the hoarding.
> >
> > I have to cry foul with this.  There's been implications
> > of hoarding on this list and in the last meeting but I have only
> > seen a single allegation posted on this list of an illigitimate
> > IPv4 holding, and that was a year ago.  (and it wasn't a hoarding
> > situation)
> If hoarding includes large netblocks (mainly /16s) that are not used
> and/or
> not needed I can name several, and even a cursory audit will show
> dozens.
> > Since true hoarding implies false data submitted for an IPv4
> This may be a source of confusion.  Hoarding does not imply false data
> submitted for an IPv4.
> Roger Marquis

I would argue that the present state of things actually facilitates
hoarding, given that only the last allocation is assessed as part of the
allocation of the next.  Any previous allocations could be unused,
barely used or used less.  Thus, you can hoard addresses by only
assigning from your last allocation and still be playing strictly by the

Sadly, the concept of having to justify all of your allocations to get
your next one doesn't seem to get much traction.


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