[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy - Revised andforwarded to the Board

John Sweeting john.sweeting at twcable.com
Mon May 4 15:09:36 EDT 2009


Thanks for the clarification Ted.


On 5/4/09 3:06 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:

> "we" is the org I'm the POC for, Internet Partners, Inc., as opposed to me
> -not- speaking officially
> for that org (which I normally do on this list)  Sorry to not make that more
> clear.
>  
> Yes, I saw Daves reply.  The fact that 8.3 is "new" does not remove the need
> for the minor
> edits and reorganization of the NRPM text that Dave was referring to, that's
> why we
> support it.
>  
> And yes I also know that the Board is going to do what it wants, so it is kind
> of futile to
> even bother commenting in opposition or support at this point.  But I don't
> want the board
> to actually start believing it's own back-patting that everything is all fixed
> now.
>  
>  
> Ted
> 
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>>  From: John Sweeting  [mailto:john.sweeting at twcable.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:40  AM
>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Member Services; arin  ppml
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy -  Revised
>> andforwarded to the Board
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>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> Please see David Farmer¹s earlier reply  to Joe Miller. Also please be more
>> specific on who the ³we² are in your  email.
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>> On 5/4/09 1:12 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
>> 
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>>> We still oppose 2009-1 as the removal of the  sunset clause by the
>>> Board fundamentally changed the proposal, and the  mixture of
>>> "merger" transfers in 8.2 and "unrestricted" transfers in  8.3
>>> did not allow for the community to separately comment and  consider
>>> the 2 issues.
>>> 
>>> If Section 8.3 was struck out we would not  oppose the proposal.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
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>>>> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
>>>> > [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]  On Behalf Of Member Services
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:21  AM
>>>> > To: arin ppml
>>>> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1:  Transfer Policy -
>>>> > Revised and forwarded to the Board
>>>> >
>>>> >  The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 29 April 2009 and
>>>> > decided to  send a revised version of 2009-1 to the Board for
>>>> > their  consideration:
>>>> >
>>>> > Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer  Policy
>>>> >
>>>> > The original 2009-1 is a result of the utilization  the
>>>> > Emergency PDP provision of the ARIN Policy Development
>>>> >  Process by the ARIN Board of Trustees. The AC was required to
>>>> > make a  recommendation about 2009-1 within 5 business days of
>>>> > the conclusion  of the discussion period (the discussion
>>>> > period for 2009-1 ended on  29 April 2009). The AC used the
>>>> > feedback from the community on the  PPML and at the Public
>>>> > Policy Meeting in San Antonio as guidance in  suggesting
>>>> > revisions to the draft policy text. The PDP tasks the  Board
>>>> > to review the AC's recommendation.
>>>> >
>>>> > The AC's  revised version of 2009-1 is below.
>>>> >
>>>> > The ARIN Policy  Development Process is available at:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>> >
>>>> >  Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Member Services
>>>> > American Registry for  Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ## * ##
>>>> >
>>>> >  Draft Policy 2009-1 Transfer Policy  as revised by the  AC
>>>> >
>>>> > Originator: ARIN Board of Trustees (using the Emergency  PDP
>>>> > provision in the ARIN Policy Development  Process)
>>>> >
>>>> > Date: 29 April 2009
>>>> >
>>>> > Policy  statement:
>>>> >
>>>> > Replace Section 8 as follows:
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.  Transfers*
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.1. Principles*
>>>> > Number resources are  non-transferable and are not assignable
>>>> > to any other organization  unless ARIN has expressly and in
>>>> > writing approved a request for  transfer. ARIN is tasked with
>>>> > making prudent decisions on whether to  approve the transfer
>>>> > of number resources.
>>>> >
>>>> > It should  be understood that number resources are not "sold"
>>>> > under ARIN  administration. Rather, number resources are
>>>> > assigned to an  organization for its exclusive use for the
>>>> > purpose stated in the  request, provided the terms of the
>>>> > Registration Services Agreement  continue to be met and the
>>>> > stated purpose for the number resources  remains the same.
>>>> > Number resources are administered and assigned  according to
>>>> > ARIN's published policies.
>>>> >
>>>> > Number  resources are issued, based on justified need, to
>>>> > organizations, not  to individuals representing those
>>>> > organizations. Thus, if a company  goes out of business,
>>>> > regardless of the reason, the point of  contact
>>>> > (POC) listed for the number resource does not have  the
>>>> > authority to sell, transfer, assign, or give the number
>>>> >  resource to any other person or organization. The POC must
>>>> > notify  ARIN if a business fails so the assigned number
>>>> > resources can be  returned to the available pool of number
>>>> > resources if a transfer is  not requested and justified.
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.2. Mergers and  Acquisitions*
>>>> > ARIN will consider requests for the transfer of  number
>>>> > resources in the case of mergers and acquisitions  upon
>>>> > receipt of evidence that the new entity has acquired  the
>>>> > assets which had, as of the date of the acquisition or
>>>> >  proposed reorganization, justified the current entity's use
>>>> > of the  number resource. Examples of assets that justify use
>>>> > of the number  resource include, but are not limited to:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Existing  customer base
>>>> > * Qualified hardware inventory
>>>> > * Specific  software requirements.
>>>> >
>>>> > In evaluating a request for transfer,  ARIN may require the
>>>> > requesting organization to provide any of the  following
>>>> > documents, as applicable, plus any other documents deemed  appropriate:
>>>> >
>>>> > * An authenticated copy of the instrument(s)  effecting the
>>>> > transfer of assets, e.g., bill of sale, certificate  of
>>>> > merger, contract, deed, or court decree.
>>>> > * A detailed  inventory of all assets utilized by the
>>>> > requesting party in  maintaining and using the number resource.
>>>> > * A list of the  requesting party's customers using the number
>>>> >  resource.
>>>> >
>>>> > If further justification is required, the  requesting party
>>>> > may be asked to provide any of the following, or  other
>>>> > supporting documentation, as
>>>> >  applicable:
>>>> >
>>>> > * A general listing of the assets or components  acquired
>>>> > * A specific description of acquisitions,  including:
>>>> >
>>>> >    o Type and quantity of  equipment
>>>> >    o Customer base
>>>> >
>>>> > * A  description of how number resources are being utilized
>>>> > * Network  engineering plans, including:
>>>> >
>>>> >    Host  counts
>>>> >    Subnet masking
>>>> >     Network diagrams
>>>> >    Reassignments  to customers
>>>> >
>>>> > *8.3 Transfers to Specified Recipients*
>>>> >  IPv4 number resources within the ARIN region may be released
>>>> > to ARIN  by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in
>>>> > part, for transfer  to another specified organizational
>>>> > recipient. Such transferred  number resources may only be
>>>> > received under RSA by organizations  that are within the ARIN
>>>> > region and can demonstrate the need for  such resources, as a
>>>> > single aggregate, in the exact amount which  they can justify
>>>> > under current ARIN policies.
>>>> >
>>>> >  #####
>>>> >
>>>> > Changes  to 2009-1 as revised by the  AC:
>>>> >
>>>> >   * Removed 2.8 organization  definition
>>>> >   * Limited to IPv4 address space
>>>> >    * Maintained ARIN as the intermediary
>>>> >   *  Maintained requirement of source and recipient being in region,
>>>> >      and explicitly added the RSA requirement
>>>> >    *Added text to clarify need must be a single  aggregate
>>>> >
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