[arin-ppml] DraftPolicy 2009-1: TransferPolicy (UsingtheEmergencyPDP)

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Thu Mar 26 21:23:18 EDT 2009


Kevin,

Please, briefly, explain to me your perspective.
If not a transfer policy, or market if you insist, what then?

What is your vision of how the community would move forward from here....through IANA free pool exhaustion, through RIR exhaustion....
What do people who consider that they need IPv4 addresses do when they run out....what do people do when they consider IPv6 too risky to their performance (business) or business plan?

What exactly do you propose ARIN and all those needing addresses do?

I'm not trying to be provocative, I'm really interested.  I've seen you express at length why a transfer market is no good.  Expose your thinking on what happens going forward.

Bill Darte
ARIN AC


-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Kevin Kargel
Sent: Thu 3/26/2009 7:35 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml]DraftPolicy	2009-1:	TransferPolicy	(UsingtheEmergencyPDP)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of John Schnizlein
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:09 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml]DraftPolicy 2009-1: TransferPolicy
> (UsingtheEmergencyPDP)
> 
> Are you actually saying you think that creating these tunnels, with
> the side effect of reliance on a third party for security and
> stability, not to mention the profit of the party providing service,
> is better for the Internet than transferring an address to the party
> that wants to reach the (legacy) IPv4-only hosts that will remain on
> the Internet for some time?
> 
> Really?
> 
Yes, absolutely.  There are tunnels already in existence and working.  The
cost is much less and the harm is nonexistent.  There is a legitimate market
those wanting to reap instant profits can get in to.  Go for the v4-v6
Gateway service market.  Oh wait, I forgot, Enterprise class routers like
Cisco already do this automatically.

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