[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy (Using the Emergency PDP)
scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue Mar 24 18:12:49 EDT 2009
True, but I don't think we should make such changes using the emergency
PDP unless they're critical. Since we're essentially in a highly
abbreviated (almost last-call like) review period for this emergency
draft policy, I think we're best off focusing on the changes the Board
made in the emergency policy.
I do think it would be worthwhile to clean up the old M&A transfer
policy (and others have said so as well, including staff in some of
their assessments of 2008-2), so I would welcome a policy proposal to do
so (using the normal PDP).
Do you have any specific opinion on the changes between 2008-6 and
2009-1, such as the removal of the 3-year sunset clause?
Thanks for your well-thought out non-circus-act contributions thus far,
on this and all the other draft policy proposals.
Martin Hannigan wrote:
> This posting says "replace section 8". I think that opens the policy
> up to feedback on all sections.
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Scott Leibrand
> <scottleibrand at gmail.com <mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Those sections are already in the NRPM. If you think they need
> changed, I think it would be best to make a new proposal to do so.
> Do you have any (more) feedback on the changes proposed here?
> On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Martin Hannigan
> <martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs <mailto:martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs>>
>> My contribution is related to the policy. I reserve my right to
>> provide an act for the circus at a later date.
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Member Services <info at arin.net
>> <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>> [ clip ]
>> Number resources are issued, based on justified need, to
>> not to individuals representing those organizations.
>> Thus, if a company
>> goes out of business, regardless of the reason, the point of
>> (POC) listed for the number resource does not have the
>> authority to
>> sell, transfer, assign, or give the number resource to any
>> other person
>> or organization. The POC must notify ARIN if a business fails
>> so the
>> assigned number resources can be returned to the available
>> pool of
>> number resources if a transfer is not requested and justified.
>> Stating that the POC has no rights and then requiring them to
>> take action on our behalf seems questionable. I don't think we
>> can require a POC to do anything.
>> I'd be in favor of this if the work was ARIN's and it was
>> effective. "Upon notification of a major negative change in a
>> Corporations status" might work and leaving the door open for
>> methods of surveillance to implement this section of the policy
>> would be useful, IMHO.
>> The rewrite may read:
>> "Number resources are issued based on justified need to
>> organizations and not to individuals that represent those
>> organizations. Upon notification that a major negative event
>> related to the Corporations solvency [define these in defintions]
>> has occurred, ARIN will freeze all assigned provider independent
>> "PI" address space, ASN's, and affiliated resources deemed
>> necessary to protect ARIN assigned number resources and their
>> disposition. Changes to these resources during the negative event
>> will be processed in a manner consistent with ARIN policy and
>> agreements in effect at the time of the negative event".
>> [ clip ]
>> Not in love with the M&A requirements. Too broad in depth and
>> breadth. We've been here before so I don't need to repeat.
>> Best Regards,
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