[arin-ppml] How hard is it to transition to IPv6?

[Scott Helms]

David,

    I wish I were as optimistic as you, and my view is based on testing 
in our environment.  While it will be fairly easy for some kinds of 
companies this is going to be a total nightmare for ISP's.  It's pain 
that has to borne, but that doesn't make it easy to swallow.

Divins, David wrote:
> Juniper does support those ssg/netscreen products on IPv6. You do need a
> cli to enable:
> set envar ipv6=yes
>
> Where I see flaws is the total supporting package.  I have a router that
> has no IPv4.  Yet I need a v4 address for BGP RID.  I cannot upgrade the
> device via v6, nor can it use v6 log, resolver, or time services.  But
> it does route and filter v6 like a madman.
>
> Personally, I am IPv6 full steam ahead, and I think for many
> organizations it will not be as bad as they suspect.  They just need
> some education, a lot of FUD has been distributed.
>
> -dsd
>
> David Divins
> Principal Engineer
> ServerVault Corp.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Michael Loftis
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: Leo Bicknell; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] How hard is it to transition to IPv6?
>
>
>
> --On March 27, 2009 11:25:56 AM -0500 Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/032509-google-ipv6-easy.html
>>
>> At the IETF meeting there was a panel discussion on transitioing
>> to IPv6, at which Google gave their perspective.  I know a lot of
>> folks have been looking for some more concrete information on how
>> hard the transition will be, and here's one companies's take on it.
>>
>> I would like to applaud Google for both being out front and talking
>> about their experiences.
>>     
>
> For some it's still impossible.  Eg any cable operator, why?  Consumer 
> devices still don't have v6.  Even many "business" class devices do not.
>
> In my own experience I've run across Watchguard Firebox X Edge series,
> all 
> lower end juniper ssg/netscreen devices -- though i'm told you can
> enable 
> it from the CLI but it's unsupported, Juniper's M7i ASM as of 8.5R4.2
> while 
> it'll let you setup stateful firewalling stuff for v6 connections, it
> just 
> doesn't work at all.  I've not tried any other ASM/Services w/ v6
> though. 
> And I'm sure the list goes on.
>
>
>
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Scott Helms
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