[arin-ppml] [arin-council] Returning Legacy Space to IANA. Attorney client communcation.

Martin Hannigan martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs
Fri Jun 12 20:37:06 EDT 2009

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jo Rhett<jrhett at svcolo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>>> Most large service providers in the region don't believe we're going
>>>> to get a fair shake in the end. Hopefully, the AC and BoT realize
>>>> that.
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Jo Rhett<jrhett at svcolo.com> wrote:
>>> Martin, I know you are clueful.    So I'm assuming that this response
>>> can't
>>> possibly be what it means on its face.
>>> Can you name a large service provider in the ARIN region who doesn't have
>>> miles and miles (on any yardstick of your choice) of extra lenient space
>>> they are paying nothing for?    That the people who have gotten the most
>>> for
>>> free are afraid that they might lose some of that advantage isn't
>>> surprising.
>> You think someone who has and is using a /8 is stressing over the $18K
>> yearly fee? Cost is probably the least interesting argument.
> I wasn't thinking of cost, so yes I agree.

Let me restate, they are not stressing over _current_ costs.

>> I can't define excess space because I don't know the specifics as to
>> why space that someone may have isn't being utilized. Wearing
>> sunglasses at night blinds you to most everything around you except
>> the bright lights and here we have what appears to be excess space as
>> that light.
> Leaving the direct insult aside, it appears you are trying to say that I
> don't know what the problem they fear is.  Yes, that is true.  Could you
> skip the insult and instead be specific about what these providers don't
> think they are getting a fair shake on?

That's not an insult, that's an analogy. I apologize if it offended you.

Best Regards,


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