[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Customer Confidentiality

Aaron Wendel aaron at wholesaleinternet.net
Tue Jun 9 23:46:42 EDT 2009

I think people are missing the point.

This is about a requirement that businesses publish customer lists in a
publically available forum where their competitors or anyone else who has no
business with the information can get to it.  This is a solution to stop the
********s out there from farming my SWIP information and calling my
customers to solicit their business.

If the customer wants to be responsible for the network then they can choose
to have the provider SWIP the IPs with their information.  This policy
simply gives the ISP a choice as to whether they want to publish their
customer information or not.

Nothing in this proposal's wording or intention removes any ISP from the
requirement that their information be available and accurate.


-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of James Hess
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:20 PM
To: Kevin Stange
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Customer Confidentiality

> Privacy of personal information is something our customers regularly ask
> us about because our system automatically publishes their information in
> rwhois.  In many cases, these customers do not have the technical
I oppose this policy, because sufficient privacy is already provided
by the NPRM under section

If you are the responsible party for a business'  computer network,
your business contact information is not personal information.
And your organization's identity and address are not personal information.

For the reasons already mentioned by others, it is essential  that
public contact and address information be available  for  assignees of
IP space who participate in the public internet.

There are suitable means available to indicate on a WHOIS record that
the ISP should be contacted instead of the end-user.   A  "Comment"
and additional Abuse POC  can be entered on the record.

Current policy does not appear to say an ISP POC  cannot be listed as
an additional contact on an  end-user  re-allocated network record

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