[arin-ppml] Large hole in IPv6 assignment logic

Dave Temkin dave at temk.in
Tue Jun 9 13:01:40 EDT 2009

michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>> Yahoo and Google provide transit services to 
>> themselves only, and while they may have 200 end sites, they 
>> are definitely *not* other organizations.  I do not 
>> understand why ARIN management would have made exceptions for 
>> these two companies (and probably many others).
> Probably because these companies operate in many countries.
> Typically, this is done by incorporating separate corporate
> entities in each country, and then managing them using
> majority share ownership or a majority of seats on the 
> board, or just by contractual means. This means that
> often these so-called subsidiaries are only partly owned
> by the mother ship, and may truly be independent organizations
> that have contracted to use the mother ship's brand, and
> products.
> In fact, it is common for MotherShip France SA, as an
> example, to be a holding company that is connected to
> several other corporations one of which owns a data centre,
> one of which employs data centre ops staff, one of which
> employs sales staff, etc.
> With this kind of scenario, it doesn't take too many 
> countries, plus a few acquisitions, to push a company
> over the 200 org limit. And note that the limit is
> projected 5 years from now, so any company with 
> international expansion plans, or acquisition plans,
> should have no trouble meeting the guidelines.
> Five years is a long time. Few companies actually have
> much of a five year plan in any kind of detail. My recommendation
> to everyone is that if the 200 org limit is a factor in
> not getting the allocation you need, then talk to your
> CEO and explain the benefits of taking time to brainstorm
> and formally develop a five year vision, which you can then
> turn into a five year plan.
> Anyone who is doing IPv6 deployment today is a visionary
> business pioneer, and stands to do very well when the IPv4
> address crunch impacts old-guard ISPs. Even if you only
> sell against the old-guard using FUD, you will still sign
> contracts and do much business. 200 organizations is not
> hard to imagine for a visionary IPv6 business pioneer.
> --Michael Dillon
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You make some fantastic points that actually do directly apply.



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