[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 93: Predicable IPv4 Run Out by Prefix Size - Revised
tvest at pch.net
Fri Jun 19 08:51:35 EDT 2009
On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:27 AM, <michael.dillon at bt.com> <michael.dillon at bt.com
>> At a bare minimum, new entrants must be safeguarded.
> Not in the end-game.
How do you justify this assertion?
Do you think that accepting industry closure to new entry is a good
idea in general?
Do you think that the current balance of internal (i.e., current
member) and external stakeholder interests, which favors the existing
industry coordination arrangements, will survive that development?
> In any case, there is plenty of IPv6 for new entrants so ARIN is
> safeguarding them.
I'm glad that IANA didn't think that way thirty years ago: "256 /8
recipients could easily support plenty of future customers, so the
system is safeguarding them."
I'm glad that the internal stakeholders didn't think that way fifteen
years ago: "there's no shortage of private addressing options for new
entrants, so the system is safeguarding them."
The fiction that IPv6 is substitutable for IPv4 *today* will not hold;
it will never hold until it ceases to be fiction. The timing of that
development will be wholly determined by incumbent IPv4 holders.
> Remember that IPv4 runout causes a certain amount of chaos
> and only the most foolish investors would fund a new entrant
> into a dying game during a period of chaos, when there is
> a new game already running with future prospects and no
How many investors were still funding real estate speculation in Q4
Why didn't the wise, farsighted investors who knew better save the
system by shorting all of the crazy ideas and deflating the bubble
before it was too late?
We will not be saved by the farsightedness and deep wisdom of outside
The chaos and "dying game" that you're describing will be internal to
current IPv4-based operators, who need to decide out what to do next.
The most visible/prominent manifestation that the runout will have in
the broader context will be the stories of what happens to the next
generation of aspiring operators who find out what our version of
"safeguarding them" really means.
I'm glad that other industries aren't guided by this kind of
reasoning; there would be a lot more engineered chaos, and a lot fewer
competitive markets in the world.
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