[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6: Emergency TransferPolicyforIPv4 Addresses - Last Call

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Jan 5 09:36:11 EST 2009

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Leo Bicknell
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:38 PM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-6: Emergency
> TransferPolicyforIPv4 Addresses - Last Call
> In a message written on Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 03:07:47PM -0500, John
> Schnizlein wrote:
> > On 2009Jan1, at 3:45 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> > >The status quo ends, however, when it does I have a markedly different
> > >view of the world than you do.  I believe that:
> > >
> > > - IPv6 is deployed fairly rapidly, and with limited pain.
> >
> > What would prompt this sort of radical change from the deplorably slow
> > deployment over the last several years?
> Here's the interesting dynamic; there is almost no first-mover
> advantage to deploying IPv6 first.  You want to deploy it before
> your customers want it, so you don't have to turn them away; and
> you want your engineers to have experience with it.  However, beyond
> that it doesn't get you extra revenue, and may make you purchase
> equipment you would not otherwise purchase, run newer software with
> more bugs, etc.
> We see ISP's state this over and over, the customers do not want
> it, so we're not doing it.
Right now the biggest incentive for an ISP to implement (notice I didn't say
'move to') IPv6 is a social one.  ISP's are technical service offerings and
the ability to say "We did it first" is not trivial.  Aside from that many
administrators at ISP's are tech junkies and are anxious to get in and play
with the new technology. 

Many ISP's keep ahead of the hardware curve and have hardware that is
already IPv6 capable.  The admins at these companies will be able to
implement some level of IPv6 for little more than the cost of configuring an
IPv6 DNS and the time (this time may be significant) it takes to plan the
routing scheme and firewall.

These pioneers are the guys that will get it started.
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