[arin-ppml] efficient utilization != needs basis
mcr at sandelman.ca
Wed Dec 23 19:18:00 EST 2009
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>>>>> "michael" == michael dillon <michael.dillon at bt.com> writes:
>> That's great for Ford or American Airlines.
michael> It's not just for big companies like Ford. Last time I
michael> looked the ANX connected over 4000 companies of all sizes
No, you missed the point.
It's fine for companies that are part of large COINs.
>> That's totally ridiculous for linking the 7 locations of
>> Bob-DryCleaning's together over $200 VPN.
michael> Of course you are right. I wasn't suggesting that any
michael> handful of companies who need to communicate need special
michael> treatment and in particular, I am talking about COINs which
Yes, I understand.
In the old days, we called them leased lines. Some of us ran IP on
them, and others ran other things that are best left unspoken lest their
respective dark-deities rise again.
>> The big guys do not have a problem --- look the government of
>> germany just got a /26. No big deal for them to parcel off a /32
>> for use on some COIN.
michael> That's another good point. We have no scarcity of IPv6
michael> addresses so if an organization needs a much larger block
michael> than a /32 to build their network, they can get it. This
michael> time around we have enough address space to handle all
michael> global and local telecommunications needs of the whole
michael> planet even if the population continues growing and 3rd
michael> world countries build the same infrastructure per person as
michael> the 1st world. In other words, there is no need to
michael> skimp. If you have big plans, and they are realistic plans,
michael> then ARIN should give you the allocation needed to make
michael> those plans a reality. We still should ask applicants to
michael> demonstrate operational need for the allocation and justify
michael> the magnitude of the allocation as well.
Like I said --- no problem if you are big guy.
Significant problem if you are not a big guy.
>> It's the small guys that will have a problem --- and it will be
>> the small guys that will deploy useful things first.
michael> The jury is out on that one. The Internet is no longer the
michael> weird new technology out in left field. It is the heart of
michael> all communications infrastructure and everyone now realises
I will agree, as long as you write: s/Internet/IPv4+NAT/
IPv6 is still out in left field. Much better this year than last,
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