[arin-ppml] The non-deployment of IPv6

joel jaeggli joelja at bogus.com
Tue Dec 8 21:23:01 EST 2009

The moment when scarcity became obvious is way back in the early 90s. We've been opperating under scarcity for so long that few remeber what it was like before that. The internet that we built since 1992 was built under a scarcity regieme.

Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:

>Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> I agree that content providers NEED to be dual-stacked first,...
>> And where will they be getting the IPv4 for that side of "dual-stacked" 
>> from after runout?
>For all we love and enjoy bantering around the term IPv4-runout as
>though it is going to be some seminal event that will shake the 
>foundations of the Internet, in reality the actual process is
>an ongoing event that merely will make IPv4 more and more expensive
>for those who need it.
>In essence runout has already started - if you don't believe this
>statement, I invite you to attempt to obtain a /8 from an RIR and
>see what they say - even if you provide adequate justification
>(as some networks, like the cellular net, could easily do)
>> And if that's via a mechanism that actually works well enough, then why 
>> would we need IPv6?
>Muh ha ha ha haaaa!
>> Matthew Kaufman
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