[arin-ppml] SWIPs & IPv6

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Thu Dec 3 18:52:37 EST 2009

Chris Engel wrote:
> Ted,
> I supported what Milton posted because I happaned to aggree with the
> point he was making not because I was trying to score points with
> him. I'm sure there are any number of other issues that he and I will
> disagree on and he is more then welcome to come after me like a pit
> bull on them if he so desires.
> The privacy restrictions that the DMV might operate under vary wildly
> from state to state....and yes I will conceede that there are MANY
> states that are woefully lacking in that regard. Perhaps I should
> have been more explicit on which states the analogy would be accurate
> under and which it wouldn't.
> Anyway, what I see is 2 seperate and distinct needs here...
> ARIN in it's role as a numbers registry (presumably) needs to know
> the ACTUAL entities who are using an IP address block and what it is
> being used for. It needs to do this (I presume) in order to
> independantly verify the justification for the request of an
> additional assignment.....and likely contact info of the ISP's NOC is
> not sufficient for that purpose given that it would be the ISP's
> request that was being verified.
> You, as Joe Public, really don't need to know WHO holds a particular
> address block....you just need to know what that address block is and
> how to go about reporting problems caused by it. You don't really
> need to know who that entity is to accomplish that...just where to
> report the issue. The point where you would need to know the actual
> identity of the block holder is likely the point at which law
> enforcment or the courts should be getting involved anyway.
> Note, I personaly think there is value in a public WHOIS directory
> and don't mind participating in it myself.... but it's not like I
> work for Salman Rushdie's publisher or anything like that.

Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them they HAVE
to go get on to the Internet and request a big block of IP addressing.

If you choose to be private, you can just not do that.  It's also
interesting to note that the notorious celebrities like Rushdie quite 
often DON'T choose to hide (and in fact do the exact
opposite, Rushdie has been on plenty of British tabloids, and has had
a string of supermodel girlfriends, etc.)


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