[arin-ppml] SWIPs & IPv6

michael.dillon at bt.com michael.dillon at bt.com
Thu Dec 3 04:09:25 EST 2009

> Now, the problem here is that the org isn't DELIBERATELY 
> going out and violating section 5b, it's just accumulated 
> mistakes.  At what point does ARIN state the org is in 
> violation of section 5b? 

Why throw vinegar at people? You'll get further ahead by
honeying them up with help to reduce the mistakes. If ARIN
states that an org is in violation, the organization could
sue ARIN, and obtain a court order preventing ARIN from taking
any further action until the lawsuit is completed and the 
courts have decided who is at fault.

ARIN needs to focus on education and on removing barriers.
In order to remove barriers, ARIN needs a better process 
for publishing a contact directory, and better tools for
ISPs to use.

This is not like the current work of providing an alternative
to emailed SWIPs, because people do not have a big investment
in IPv6 tools. This is an opportunity for ARIN and the community
to design something right and to implement it well.
In particular, if it is open source, then many companies
can contribute to it.

> And the larger question is, what constitutes "maintenance of 
> directory services data...data concerning any organization to 
> which it further sub-delegates"

This would be easier to define and audit if both orgs are 
running the same directory server which can be queried to
test any criteria that you want.

Wordsmithing the RSA will not solve any problems, just make
the problems get into the courts sooner. 

Do we want to fix the problem or do we want to hit people 
over the head with brickbats?

--Michael Dillon

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