[arin-ppml] SWIPs & IPv6

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Dec 2 13:53:24 EST 2009

Danny McPherson wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> My original post on this topic was aimed at the 'anti-whois' crowd because I felt that the post from Danny on the 30th was a recycling of
>> the old "well if nobody is filing SWIPS then I'm not going to so let's
>> get rid of them" argument. I have seen that logic before and I thought I
>> recognized it again, and I have to say that I believe my guess was
>> right considering Danny's highly negative reaction to my pointing
>> out the foolishness of not making SWIP data available.
> For the record, you're mistaken, I had zero opinion on this topic 
> beyond trying to understand what the issues were.  

Danny, I apologize for assuming that you had an iron in the
fire on this.  The last time this topic came up on the list
the original poster definitely had an axe to grind.

> I've gleaned a 
> few useful insights (e.g., the abuse desk to the ISP that didn't
> create the SWIPs).  
> As for my "highly negative reaction", I actually thought your 
> response comical - but you senselessly diluted your point trying
> to be clever.  

Well, it isn't "my" point, as many other administrators act similarly to 
what I described.  But, keep in mind that if you honestly have no POV 
either way on this issue then of course your going to think it's
diluted, just as the man watching an arrow fly by, aimed at some
other target, thinks "Oh that's kind of interesting"

I'm not aiming at you, I'm aiming at the people who want to get
rid of the whois database, and institute the same kind of
butchery to it that the DNS registrars have permitted to domain name 
contacts (ie: so-called "privacy" listings that do nothing other than to 
allow criminals to hide themselves)


> I've heard your opinion, I'd like to continue to hear form other
> folks as well..
> Kind regards,
> -danny 
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