[arin-ppml] Update on 2009-3: Global Policy for the Allocationof IPv4 Blocks to RIRs

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Aug 21 17:59:41 EDT 2009

Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt<tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
>> Martin Hannigan wrote:
>> This implies a formal system, I was speaking of an INFORMAL "system".
>> Ideally the hostmaster of ARIN should be able to send an e-mail to the
>> hostmaster of, for example, RIPE and say  "I noticed that we got block
>> W.X.Y.Z/24 given back to us from Wonkulating Gronkulators, and I
>> also noticed that your managing the 2 adjacent /24's that surround it
>> and it seems to make more sense for you to take W.X.Y.Z/24 so why
>> don't you take it over?"
>> In short they should be able to just do these things without having to
>> go through all the rackafratz of handing it back to IANA for IANA to
>> hand back out to RIPE.
> Ted,
> You can always write a global proposal to try and move such an idea
> forward. If you would like some advice or assistance in conducting
> such an activity, please let myself or one of the others members of
> the ASO AC (Louis Lee and Jason Schiller) we can point you in the
> right direction.
> That goes for anyone else as well. Anyone can submit a global policy
> much like anyone can submit a local policy.

Thanks, Martin.

I think probably it would be good to see how 2009-3 fares, first.

I feel it's important for 2009-3 to get it's chance for an "up/down" vote.

I think many in the community feel that once the last IPv4 is handed
out that we should get all hands on board to get to IPv6 and leave
IPv4 in the dust, that efforts on IPv4 recovery are ultimately just
prolonging the supply of IPv4 for a short time, and serve as a
distraction to IPv6 adoption.  I suspect this feeling drives much of
the uncertainty around 2009-3

My feeling is the community needs to reach consensus on the value of
IPv4 recovery.  I feel this will happen quicker if it is shown that
IPv4 recovery efforts have value, ie: that they are actually working.
This is why we put in the clause:

"...ARIN will maintain, and make readily available to the community, a 
current list of number resources with no valid POC..."

into proposal 2008-7, as once ARIN starts supplying this data it will
be easy to draw conclusions as to whether IPv4 recovery will produce
significant IPv4, in the ARIN region at any rate, as well as alter the
timeline as to when IPv4 exhaustion is "really going to happen"


  on consensus on 2009-3

> Best Regards,
> Martin Hannigan

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