[arin-ppml] Update on 2009-3: Global Policy for the Allocationof IPv4 Blocks to RIRs
kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Aug 17 16:16:08 EDT 2009
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:00 PM
> To: Owen DeLong
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Update on 2009-3: Global Policy for the
> Allocationof IPv4 Blocks to RIRs
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Owen DeLong<owen at delong.com> wrote:
> >>> Where authorized by their respective chosen policies and strategies,
> >>> each RIR shall designate IPv4 address space recovered from its
> >>> registrants for return to the IANA.
> > Bill's language sounds like all resources recovered under our policies
> > should be returned to IANA. I am not comfortable with that wording.
> Would you be happier with "where permitted" or "where allowed" instead
> of "where authorized?" Perhaps, "To the extent permitted by".
> Fill in the blank man: _______, each RIR shall designate IPv4 address
> space recovered from its registrants for return to the IANA.
If we are going to leave it up to the discretion of the RIR whether or not
or how they do it then the entire clause is meaningless and should be
Are we going to tell everyone they have to return the space or are we just
going to suggest it would be nice? If it is the latter then it has no place
in policy. There is no point in telling young Johnnie that he has to be
home no later than 10:00 unless he decides he wants to stay out later. I
see no carrot, stick, or even enforceable limit emplaced here.
If we make this conditional on local policy then the RIR can do an end run
with a simple policy change. With that in place the entire exercise is
Let's not make policy rules that have no teeth, cannot be policed or are
> William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com bill at herrin.us
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