[arin-ppml] Multihomed Microallocations

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Tue Aug 4 13:19:51 EDT 2009



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:01 PM
> To: Owen DeLong
> Cc: ARIN PPML
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Multihomed Microallocations
> 
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:15 PM, William Herrin<bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong<owen at delong.com> wrote:
> >> I suppose we can agree to disagree here. It does, actually impact
> >> ISP allocations.  As soon as a person qualifies for a /24 under this
> >> policy as an ISP, it would immediately convert them to a known
> >> ISP in the ARIN service region and make them eligible to receive
> >> a /32 of IPv6 in addition to their IPv4 /24. While I'm all for removing
> >> unnecessary barriers to multi-homing, I think giving an IPv6 /32
> >> to every user that justifies a /24 as an ISP opens up a serious
> >> hole in policy.
> >
> > Bullhockey. The 6.5.1.1 requirement is that the organization must "be
> > an LIR" as defined under 2.4. That requires that they be allocated
> > (not assigned) addresses from any other IR. Typically that's an RIR
> > like ARIN but there's not restriction on it being another LIR.
> 
> 
> Come to think of it, under the current IPv6 policy, I can, right now,
> today, have my ISP *allocate* me an IPv4 /30 on my single-homed $20
> DSL connection *and* delegate rwhois to my server. Next I assign /32's
> to my two next-door neighbors and put their names in my rwhois server.
> If I now promise to make 200 downstream IPv6 assignments within 60
> months, I'm qualified to receive a /32 of IPv6 space... based on that
> promise, my use of 4 IP addresses and my payment of the annual ARIN
> fee.
> 
> One wonders why I ever thought it was hard to get IPv6 addresses from
> ARIN...
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 

I do not know if all of the efforts to keep the small guy (multi-DSL) users
off of the backbone are a good thing.  Looking back in the history of the
internet the then little folks using dialup were very instrumental in the
development and R&D that brought about what we enjoy today.

I for one would rather encourage these folks.  I believe the hassle and cost
of obtaining an ASN and going through the hoops to get an allocation are
enough to keep the frivolous users away.  

Working to exclude the experimenters and small users will ultimately prevent
good that could be done for the community.  I believe this outweighs any
small burden or abuse we would see from this sector.  Rather than fostering
an elitist attitude and trying to keep anyone who is not as big as us out,
we should be encouraging the small operator.

Kevin

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