[arin-ppml] Summary: lowering the ARIN minimum allocation

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Aug 3 17:06:41 EDT 2009


I believe that this issue is addressed by the nature of existing IPv6
policy section 6.5.8.1

https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six58

Owen

On Aug 3, 2009, at 1:24 PM, "" <lar at mwtcorp.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:48:16 -0400
> William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Leo Bicknell<bicknell at ufp.org> wrote:
>>> I would prefer a new policy look directly at multi-homing end-users
>>> in IPv6, and if there are smart things we can be doing there.
>
>
>> Leo,
>> I did that a month ago but the AC shot it down. If they have any
>> better ideas, they haven't offered them.
>> Even if we revive that discussion, the IPv4 issues and the IPv6  
>> issues
>> are distinct from each other just as the single and multihomed
>> minimums have a different set of issues. They can and probably should
>> be considered separately and addressed with different policy
>> proposals.
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>
> It may be time to play a little ping pong with the AC.
>
> V4 and V6 are different technically but the effects of both
> sets of policies bleed very much into the other. It's
> folly to establish a V4 policy that encourages a group
> of small concerns to get PI space and then not take into
> consideration that WE want them to use V6. Are you going to
> tell them they can have V4 but not V6 but by the way we want
> you to convert/implement V6?
> If we really want to move V6 forward we need to begin tying
> the policies together.
>
> Such as - after some date you have to have an
> operational V6 net running and announced to get further V4
> allocations.
> -AND-
> In order to get an initial V4 allocation you need to apply
> and qualify for an initial V6 allocation and commit to
> bringing the V6 up within 12 months.
>
> I realize there are upstream and equipment issues but
> if we are serious about V6 we will have to press. We
> don't have to wait for exhaustion before starting to turn
> up the heat.
>
> At the very least we should synchronize the V4 policies
> to current V6 policies.
>
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