[arin-ppml] Ted's Comment on 2009-2

[Joe Maimon]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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> I'll bet you a beer that it will be the smaller ISP's
> who make native IPv6 available to their residential customers over
> broadband BEFORE larger ISPs do.
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> Ted
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Available as in by request or as pilot or even fully dual homed customer 
base with guipv4?

Likely.

As in you can have /32v4 and a whole /64v6 in response to customer 
request for larger?

Unlikely.

As in you can have rfc1918 v4 and this /64v6? (It is easier for small 
orgs to deploy nat/pat)

Only if they have to because they need to stop assigning guipv4. And if 
it turns out that small ISP's need to go this route before larger ones, 
that is clearly inequitable.

When a small ISP turns down requests for globally unique ipv4 in favor 
of handing out ipv6, the smaller ISP is going to lose the customer to 
the larger ISP.

And remember, guipv4 for customers have always been more available and 
cheaper for large organization than for small, witness the 500 times 
price per address difference between the smallest and largest 
allocations, add to that larger scale opportunities for scavenging and 
recycling, add to that the ability to pony up serious cash on any 
potential ip market, or to even just buy out underutilized small ISP's.

As such my conclusion is post IANA runout, large orgs will be able to 
provide ipv4 --by (paid)request at least-- far longer than smaller 
organizations.

I am not worried about the large ISP's. Where they go, the smaller ones 
can follow, along with their customers. It wont work the other way.

Thanks,

Joe