[arin-ppml] Demand for community networking

Davis, Terry L terry.l.davis at boeing.com
Wed Apr 29 11:53:10 EDT 2009


Joel

ICAO will not provide any services directly.  The Internet services for the ATM Network will actually be provided by "navigation service providers" (FAA, CAA, Eurocontrol, etc), aviation "communication service providers" (SITA, ARINC, INMARSAT, etc), airports, etc.  ICAO will provide high level design guidance and address allocations.

6.2.2 RIR  -- ICAO is not

6.2.4 LIR  -- ICAO is not providing the services directly

6.5.1 Initial allocation -- Again ICAO is not providing services directly.

6.2.4 and 6.5.1 Are almost NITs, but a few words of change there to make it clear how this type of entity fits in probably need to be discussed eventually.

Take care
Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joelja at bogus.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:34 AM
> To: Davis, Terry L
> Cc: 'Chris Boyd'; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Demand for community networking
> 
> 
> 
> Davis, Terry L wrote:
> > Chris
> >
> > Also for future thoughts in IPv6 space specifically, the need for
> > permanent contiguous address spaces exist for other large
> > organizations; below are a few of which are discussing it:
> >
> > - International Civil Aviation Organization - Railway associations
> > both in North America and Europe - North American Power Companies -
> > Shipping companies - City and County governments - Fire Districts
> 
> Which of of these legal entities or treaty organizations would not
> qualify for pi address space assignments under existing rir allocation
> policy? None as far as I can tell.
> 
> > Take care Terry
> >
> >> -----Original Message----- From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> >> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Chris Boyd Sent:
> >> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:44 PM To: ppml at arin.net Subject:
> >> [arin-ppml] Demand for community networking
> >>
> >> Since some people expressed concern for contact maintenace, address
> >>  tracking etc.
> >>
> >> There's clearly a demand for such services, as witnessed by
> >> http://www.wiana.org/ Please, no debates about the wisdom of their
> >> use of 1.0.0.0/8 - It's clearly not a good thing.  It would be far
> >> better to bring such activists and enthusiasts into the ARIN fold
> >> and ensure that they use globally unique addresses in the future.
> >> Past history shows that somehow, some way these networks will wind
> >> up getting connected to the global network.  Might as well make
> >> life in the future better for all.
> >>
> >> --Chris
> >>
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