[arin-ppml] Revised -- Policy Proposal 2009-4: IPv4 Recovery Fund
Stephen Sprunk
stephen at sprunk.org
Sat Apr 18 14:42:26 EDT 2009
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk
>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:45 PM
>> To: David Farmer
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised -- Policy Proposal 2009-4:
>> IPv4 Recovery Fund
>>
>>
>> I think that, regardless of the exact mechanism of transfers or bidding, ARIN should operate a voluntary listing service, as is done in the real estate industry. Sure, you can buy and sell property outside that system if you have a good reason, but the vast majority of buyers and sellers (at least in arms-length transactions) choose to use the listing service because it will provide them the best price. And, after a bit of data accumulates, we will _all_ have a much better idea of the fair market value of various size blocks, and there will be even less incentive to go outside the listing system.
>>
>
> However the people with the IPv4 blocks do not own them, the people with real estate do own it. It's a different paradigm.
>
Not entirely. With a few minor exceptions, only the sovereign can own
land; "estate in land" aka real estate is the _right to use_ land, and
that is what individuals buy and sell. Individuals cannot own numbers,
either, but they can buy and sell the _right to use_ numbers on the
Internet. A slot in the county deed recorder's office and a slot in
ARIN's registry aren't that different -- and a listing service for
buyers and sellers to meet would be little different either, except that
we assume most buyers don't care _which_ numbers they get, while most
buyers of real estate certainly do.
S
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