[arin-ppml] Did 2008-6 provide what Board needed?
Bill Darte
BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Tue Apr 14 15:38:10 EDT 2009
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> Subject: [arin-ppml] Did 2008-6 provide what Board needed?
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> I had a thought, maybe we should be equally critical of our
> ourselves, as we have been of the Board and 2009-1, and ask
> if 2008-6 delivered what the board needed in order to do
> their job in preparing the ARIN Region for IPv4 scarcity
> drawing near.
>
> In reading and thinking about the Board's statement from last
> week, and reviewing 2008-6, I think the Board is correct that
> 2008-6 doesn't provide the predictability and certainty from
> a network planning point of view the community really needs
> with IPv4 scarcity drawing near. I believe this is caused by
> the timetable for implementation or more correctly the lack
> of any specific timetable for implementation in 2008-6. And,
> the way the sunset clause is dependent on that unpredictable
> timetable for implementation by sunsetting 3 years after
> implementation.
What predictability? The point of the later...near IANA
runout...implementation expectation and the sunset clause within 2008-6
WAS supposed to provide predictability....
The predictability was that IPv4 was NOT the future of Internet
addressing, but rather a sureness that IPv6 was. People could predict
with reasonable degree of certainty that in a few years, there would be
less risk in pursuing a v6 as a company strategy than might be found in
v4. The signal that was sent, and explained at the meeting, was that
ARIN would not support a continuance of v4 over v6. The transient
nature of 2008-6 was supposed to be an emergency, stop-gap measure to
provide continuity of services to v4 users that hadn't weaned themselves
of v4 or for which the 'complete v6 answers' were not yet available.
2008-6 was never about demonstrating the ever more efficient use of v4
addresses.....it was designed counter to that notion.
So, 2009-1 and 2008-6 have virtually nothing to do with one another
other than they funadmentally create a marketplace for existing v4
addresses...everything else about them is opposed to one another.
bd
> By having 2008-6 dependent on IANA free pool exhaustion or
> the ARIN Region reaching a threshold of scarcity, whatever
> any of us intended that to mean, does nothing to reduce the
> risk IPv4 scarcity represents to the community, does nothing
> to increase the predictability of the situation, and provides
> no help in network planing.
>
> The Board's solution is to implement immediately and
> eliminate the sunset clause. This definitely clears up the
> unpredictability and uncertainty, and makes network planning
> easier. However, this solution is inconsistent with the
> compromises within 2008-6 that allowed the community to gain
> the minimal level of consensus that it did. Further, by
> eliminating any triggers or deadlines this solution
> eliminates any sense of urgency for adoption of IPv6 within
> the community. The Sunset in 2008-6 makes it clear that allowing
> IPv4 Transfers isn't going to be a long-term solution by itself.
>
> I believe that we can solve the unpredictability and
> uncertainty while remaining mostly consistent with the
> compromise within 2008-6. I believe the key to solving the
> unpredictability and uncertainty is to provide a specific
> start and end date for IPv4 transfers to Specified
> Recipients. Then provide a safety trigger to start early if
> IANA exhaustion occurs significantly faster than anyone
> expects and an automatic extension if IANA exhaustion takes
> significantly longer than anyone expects.
>
> For discussion, lets say we could know for a fact that IANA
> will allocate the last /8s per NRPM 10.4.2.2 on June 30th
> 2011. So lets pick one year before that for the start date
> and two years after that for the end date, giving us June
> 30th 2010 for the start and June 30th 2013 for the end, the
> three year period in 2008-6. Currently, it looks like IANA
> exhaustion will occur sometime in mid-2011, but no one know
> for sure actually when, but it is a good bet it will occur
> sometime in 2011. So lets give ourselves the whole year of
> 2011 to create a good amount of certainty, lets split that
> equally with the start and end date. So lets pick a new a
> start date of January 4th 2010, the first business day of
> 2010, and an end date of December 31st, 2013, the last
> business day of 2013.
>
> This really give us 4 years, but that extra year buys us
> something, specific dates, with enough cushion that we have a
> fairly high probability we that we will start with a minimum
> of a year before and an end a minimum of two years after IANA
> exhaustion. These specific dates greatly reduce the
> unpredictability and uncertainty, and allow network planing
> to begin immediately based on these dates, while retaining a
> sense of urgency for a transition. Further, we have a
> solution much more consistent with the compromises within
> 2008-6 that provided minimal consensus within the community
> to move forward.
>
> Now lets add that safety trigger at the to the start, in case
> IANA exhaustion accelerates and occurs significantly sooner
> than anyone expects. I propose if we get to 13 /8s left
> excluding the /8s reserved in NRPM 10.4.2.1, then we start
> IPv4 transfers to Specified Recipients in 30 days. The 30
> days, is to allow ARIN to make an announcement. The 13 /8s
> is from the fact that IANA is currently allocating over 12
> /8s to the RIRs per year, plus an extra month to make an
> announcement, this seems like a reasonable safety trigger. I
> believe it is highly unlikely this would happen prior to
> January 2010, but if it did, I don't think anyone would argue
> that it wasn't time to trigger, things would be going way
> fast than anyone expects.
>
> Now the automatic extension, if IANA exhaustion takes
> significantly longer than anyone thinks it should. This is
> much more simple, we simply guarantee two years after IANA exhaustion.
>
> Therefore, if IANA exhaustion actually takes place in 2011,
> which seems likely, then neither the safety trigger or the
> automatic extension will be necessary, and IPv4 transfers
> will be allowed for 4 years. Given that we cannot know for
> sure when IANA exhaustion with occur, in any case this
> timetable creates a high degree of predictability, while
> maintaining a sense of urgency for IPv6 adoption.
>
> Some possible policy language;
>
> IPv4 Transfers to Specified Recipients will begin on the
> earlier of the following two dates; January 4th 2010, or 30
> days after the IANA free pool reaches 13 /8s available,
> exclusive of the /8s reserved in 10.4.2.1.
>
> IPv4 Transfers to Specified Recipients will end on the later
> of the following two dates; December 31st, 2013, or 2 years
> after ARIN receives its last /8 per section 10.4.2.2.
>
> An expected end date of December 31st, 2013, provides
> sufficient time to implement a policy that obtains consensus
> at the Fall 2013 PPM in October 2013. Maybe extending IPv4
> transfers to Specified Recipients or possibly making them
> permanent, and maybe even adding all network resources
> including IPv6 and ASNs. I believe that by 2013 it should be
> obvious one way or the the other.
>
> Further, delaying implementation to January 2010, would allow
> ARIN to get a good start on POC validations, assuming 2008-7
> gains consensus in San Antonio, which could help prevent
> fraudulent transfers. We would also have a chance to
> complete other IPv4 end-game policies like maybe 2009-2,
> providing a better picture of the whole solution to IPv4
> scarcity not just IPv4 Transfers to Specified Recipients.
> While allowing everyone, including ARIN, to immediately begin
> their planing for IPv4 Transfers to Specified Recipients to
> begin on a well known date.
>
> Personally, I would like to extend the end date to December
> 31st, 2014, I can't provide a good argument for why, but that
> is what my gut tells me.
> However, I believe the December 31st, 2013 date is much more
> consistent with the compromises within 2008-6, and sticking
> to the compromise is probably more important than my gut. I
> could stand to loose some of my gut anyway. :)
>
> Does this make sense? Is it a workable compromise? Does it
> provide enough certainty? Does it allow for sufficient
> network planning? Does it provide a proper sense of urgency
> for IPv6 adoption?
>
>
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