[arin-ppml] The AC has a job to do with 2009-1 can you please help?

[Chris Grundemann]

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:55, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
>> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:43 AM
>> To: Jeremy H.Griffith
>> Cc: ARIN PPML
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The AC has a job to do with 2009-1
>> can you please help?
>>
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>>
>> It's the best mechanism we have available in a capitalist society.
>> ARIN's done the communist thing for the last 10 years, and
>> that's bought
>> us rapidly approaching resource exhaustion -- just like it did in
>> Russia, China, Cuba, etc.  Capitalism may not be ideal, but it's the
>> least-bad system for managing scarce resources that humanity has yet
>> discovered (see also: democracy).
>>
>
> Stephen,
>
> The IPv4 "scarcity" is fake, it doesn't exist in reality - it is something
> that was created when they decided to use 32-bit integers for IP numbers
> and stuff both the network number and host number into the same number.
>
> Somebody thought they were being clever with this little experimental
> toy network they were playing with and whoops - it got away from them.
>
> Basically your Paleocon analogy is false, it's like saying that a capitalist
> market exists in drivers license numbers or social security numbers and
> since
> we aren't charging money for SS numbers, we are going to run out of them.
> It's like arguing for air pollution so that we can develop a market
> in selling oxygen to people.
>
> The closest "scarcity" analogy to the IPv4 situation would be the
> DeBeers control of the world's fine diamond supply.
> DeBeers deliberately sets up a scarcity in diamonds to manipulate
> the price, then calls the diamond market a capitalist investment
> market, when in reality it's a communist market - the only real
> scarcity there is in diamonds is in the flawless blue white
> investment grade - the DeBeers vaults are stuffed full of the
> less-than-flawless stuff they miser out for use in wedding rings, etc.
>
> BAD network design - such as the address translator - are a result
> of this artifically created scarcity.
>
> IPv6 rectifies this and once the world switches over to IPv6 all
> this capitalist/communist claptrap will be seen by everyone for the
> nonsense that it is - there is no market in an effectively infinite supply
> of integers.

Unfortunately IPv6 is _not_ an effectively infinite supply as
currently proposed/implemented.
http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2009/how-much-ipv6-is-there/
~Chris

>
> Ted
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