[arin-ppml] Taking back UNUSED addresses.
Berse, Ryan E
ryan.e.berse at citi.com
Tue Sep 16 09:52:26 EDT 2008
When looking at these numbers, you need to keep in mind that just
because a particular block of space is not advertised to the (public)
Internet does not mean it is unused. Organizations also use their
registered address space on B2B links between their own network and
those of partners/clients/vendors/etc. I would bet such use accounts
for a significant chunk of the allocated but unadvertised space.
Attempting to reclaim such space would probably meet with fierce
resistance from the registrants (especially if legacy) and their legal
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of Geoff Huston
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:27 PM
To: William Herrin
Cc: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Taking back UNUSED addresses.
On 13/09/2008, at 7:42 AM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org>
>> In a message written on Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 04:06:45PM -0400,
>> William Herrin wrote:
>>> In other words, 100 - 62.8 = 37.2% of allocated space is not
>>> routed on
>>> the public Internet.
>> Two other people have e-mailed me the same thing. I believe you are
>> However, this effor is in the direction that puts more weight
>> behind my
> Do we have an independent confirmation of the numbers? As I recall,
> that particular computation is not the primary purpose of that report.
I'll be brief - this list is already very busy and I'm reluctant to
add to the reading volume unnecessarily.
The figures Leo Quotes appear to be from a weekly report generated by
a BGP analysis script set up by Philip Smith of Cisco.
Another view of the advertised / unadvertised ratio can be seen at
Figure 13 of http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/
), using an independently authored set of tools that I set up that
looks at the BGP routing table and the RIR's published data regarding
This graph expresses the size of the unadvertised address pool as a
percentage of the size of the advertised address pool over time.
The current value is 0.4322 (unadvertised addresses are 43.22% of the
advertised address) Which means that of the total allocated address
pool, 30.17% of the addresses are not _currently_ advertised into my
particular view of the global routing table.
Its slightly lower than the figure that Leo quotes in the thread, but
then again I can readily see that there are different methods of
counting what's actually "allocated" and there are certainly scope for
considerable variation here (see
if you want to have a feel for the quality of the input data on
"allocated" addresses) and of course every view of the routing table
differs to some small extent.
The current ratio has been stable, more or less, since early 2007 (the
unadvertised address pool has been growing at the same relative rate
as the advertised address pool in size)
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