[arin-ppml] ARIN releases new version of the Legacy Registration
cliffb at cjbsys.bdb.com
Sun Sep 7 09:46:26 EDT 2008
I'm curious about why the sudden interest in "outreach/reclamation" of
Legacy addresses. We made it 10 years or so without it. As IPv4 runs
out,are we really trying to push IPv6 or get back enough IPv4 to stumble
along for some undetermined length of time.
There seems to be one camp that says don't extend IPv4 by any methods.
This will take us to the nirvana of IPv6 sooner. A second group seems
to want to reclaim IPv4 and/or collect fees from us legacy bums.
Amazingly, several people on this group seem to be on both groups which
seems kind of bipolar. (or maybe I just can't keep all the names and
If the intent is to not extend IPv4, there is no need for outreach since
Legacy space is only IPv4 and it's going to die.
If the intent is to try to reclaim space to extend IPv4 life, I think
the LRSA is not needed to do it. ARIN has no need for an agreement with
Legacy holders to update the contact information and by definition won't
have an agreement with those it tries to seize due to no contact.. They
can outreach to the best of their ability and after X months or years,
can make a claim that the addresses have been abandoned and if someone
later complains, let the lawyers fight it out. For those who do
respond, ARIN can do whatever due diligence it needs to verify that the
responder has the right to respond and update records as necessary.
They need to do this with or without an LRSA and once done, they don't
need the LRSA, they have the info they need for the whois etc.
If the intent is to raise money from Legacy holders, a much less
restrictive agreement than the current LRSA would be do the job. Many
of us are willing to contribute but feel than any agreement that has any
option of grabbing our addresses to be a deal breaker.
I think Eric Westbrook gave a good summary of where we are but I'm not
sure I see why it even came up and knowing that might help reach a
solution that answers that "why do this at all"
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