[arin-ppml] On whether morality can be the lone argumentagainst a transfer market (was Re: 2008-6: Emergency TransferPolicy for IPv4 Addresses)

Alexander, Daniel Daniel_Alexander at Cable.Comcast.com
Tue Sep 30 16:52:08 EDT 2008

Suppose the RIRs implement policy to provide for existing and new
entrants, along the lines of prop-062 (use of final /8), or 2008-5
(Dedicated IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6 deployment), or some other
proposals that provides three to five years of IPv4 allocations from the
final /8 given to each Registry. 

Also suppose the IETF found it possible to create standards of some IPv4
to IPv6 translation mechanisms to provide communications between the

Some might be quick to dismiss this as impossible or improbable, but for
the sake of discussion, do you think the Internet would still need paid


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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:19 AM
To: michael.dillon at bt.com
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] On whether morality can be the lone
argumentagainst a transfer market (was Re: 2008-6: Emergency
TransferPolicy for IPv4 Addresses)

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:40:13AM +0100, michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
> It seems to me that legitimate social needs are better served by 
> deploying IPv6 instead of spending increasing amounts of money on 
> band-aid solutions to keep the IPv4 Internet functioning. We know that

> things cannot go on as they are. We can choose to waste money avoiding

> the inevitable or "you can rock out to it" and invest your money in 
> IPv6.

You are probably right on this point, but good stewardship does not
involve simply abandoning all responsibility for IPv4 resources once we
run out.  If the community wants good record keeping, ARIN should remain
involved until such time that IPv4 is more or less irrelevant.
If that means regulating a market for a short period of time, let's do
that.  It may not be the most efficient use of resources, but it may
also be the most effective form of stewardship for this set of number
resources.  I'd much prefer a concerted effort to deploy and transition
to IPv6, but I suspect the timeline is long enough for that work such
that IPv4 will still matter, even when the number space is fully
consumed.  That will then force the use of "band-aids".  C'est la vie.

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