[arin-ppml] A compromise on legacy space?

Marshall Eubanks tme at multicasttech.com
Wed Sep 10 17:25:51 EDT 2008

On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

> Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>> On Sep 10, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>> Leo Bicknell wrote:
>>>> I do not believe ARIN can dump the entry from their internal  
>>>> database or assign the same numbers to someone else.
>>> I do not see any law or contract that would prevent ARIN from  
>>> assigning or allocating those numbers to someone else.
>>> Numbers are not property.  ARIN is selling the service of  
>>> providing uniqueness of registration, not numbers.  If the numbers  
>>> are no longer registered to party X, they can be freely assigned  
>>> or allocated to party Y.
>> But how, in that case, do they guarantee uniqueness ?
> The guarantee of uniqueness is only among registered numbers, i.e.  
> no two organizations can register the same number.  ARIN, like any  
> other RIR, has no ability to prevent organizations from using  
> numbers that aren't registered to them.

> We've seen countless times where orgs pick random numbers in  
> "unassigned" space, rather than getting them from their RIR, and  
> there is a collision years later when it gets legitimately assigned  
> to someone else by an RIR.  Should those numbers be marked as "bad"  
> and never given to someone else, so that the squatter is free to use  
> them forever?  Think about the consequences of that.

Yes, they would be unique. That seems like a good thing to me.


> S

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