[arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Wed Oct 29 15:33:36 EDT 2008


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jo Rhett [mailto:jrhett at svcolo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:57 PM
> To: Kevin Kargel
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity
> 
> On Oct 29, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> > What you are proposing could easily turn in to an excessive annual 
> > manpower requirement for an ISP.  It could easily be 
> forgotten or mis- 
> > assigned with terrible consequences.
> 
> Not unless the ISP throws away the information gained from 
> the previous year every time and does it all from scratch.
> 
> And I mean seriously, have you ever worked at an ISP that 
> didn't have an internal database with information about every 
> single IP allocation?  ISPs are going to find this exercise trivial.

Have you ever looked in an ISP's database and found inaccuracies or
mistakes?  Do you know of ANY database ANYWHERE that is 100% accurate or
100% up to date?  ISP's are going to find this exersice trivial as long as
they treat it like a paperwork function and fill in the blocks with right
looking numbers to get it over with.  (hmm, does that sound like what people
do now for justifications?)  If it is a matter of just filling out forms for
the sake of filling out forms then I suggest that the whole exercise is just
busywork.  I have enough of that already.  
> 
> > I don't mind paying for something that I get value from, but please 
> > keep niggling fingers out of my budget.
> 
> This is the cost of your IP allocation.  It's actually right 
> there in your contract, right now, today.  What is being 
> proposed is simply enforcement of those contractual terms.

I already have a cost for my IP allocation..  What I am hearing proposed is
a fine (since when did ARIN have authority to assess fines?) if I don't
complete my paperwork to meet some administrators approval.  I do not need a
sword of extra fees hanging over my head and I suspect you don't either.

> 
> -- 
> Jo Rhett
> senior geek
> 
> Silicon Valley Colocation
> Support Phone: 408-400-0550
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