[arin-ppml] Whois cleanup proposals

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Tue Oct 21 19:21:45 EDT 2008

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Grundemann [mailto:cgrundemann at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:05 PM
> To: Scott Leibrand
> Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: Whois cleanup proposals
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt 
> <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> >> My $.02 is that this process could start by verifying the POCs in 
> >> WHOIS.
> >
> > Yes, I agree.
> >
> >> Then ARIN staff can focus initially on
> >> "orphaned" IP space (blocks with no verifiable POC). I am not 
> >> suggesting that all IP space with out a valid POC is 
> necessarily or 
> >> inherently abandoned but I do think that it is an area 
> that may well 
> >> prove to have much low hanging fruit in regards to reclamation.
> >>
> >> We may need a specific policy to address under what conditions an 
> >> address block can be considered abandoned or otherwise 
> "reclaimable." 
> >> We may also want or need a policy (such as my proposed 
> "Annual WHOIS 
> >> POC Validation")
> >
> > YOUR proposed whois POC validation?
> >
> > Don't you mean MY proposed "whois POC e-mail cleanup" that 
> you didn't 
> > even bother participating in and just ripped off the idea from?
> WOW.  I guess I mean the proposal based on the one that you 
> ripped off from Heather Schiller (before I had the chance too ;)).

Damn now you made me snort pop out my nose...

Actually I think Heather wanted to take a very large axe or mallet
to the userbase.  What she proposed was far in excess of what
either of us wrote out.  I also noted that she did very little in
revisions to incorporate anyone's suggestions.

> Hoping it's all in fun,

It's all in fun until the results of the AC review and ARIN staff
review on both proposals.  Then we will know if either of the
proposals will be workable or not.  Remember it's ARIN staff that
would be doing the work, I would think that their opinion on
whether the proposals are doable or not would carry great weight.

And, these are just the beginnings of the small rocks that 
herald the avalanche  Just look at all the debate on the list
over the "Millions of Internet addresses are lying idle"
post and all THAT was, is some bozo with Perl loaded on a Windows
system who figured out how to write a loop and put the ping
command in it!

Wait and see what happens when one of these proposals is implemented
and a year from now ARIN reports that 50% of the Legacy IPv4 POCs
are not responding to their query!!!


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