[arin-ppml] "Millions of Internet AddressesAre LyingIdle" (slashdot)
tedm at ipinc.net
Tue Oct 21 17:53:06 EDT 2008
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> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Ron Cleven
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] "Millions of Internet AddressesAre
> LyingIdle" (slashdot)
> michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
> >>Until and unless someone can describe, in simple layman's
> >>terms, a rational transition plan to IPv6, I don't see it happening.
> > The laymen have already transitioned to IPv6.
> Very cute.
I have a smartphone, a Motorola Q running Windows Mobile 5 on it
on the Sprint network. When I ran the Microsoft networking tools on
the phone it clearly showed that Sprint has assigned IPv6 numbers to
it's cellular data network. When I surf the web on my phone I am
going through a IPv6->IPv4 gateway. Ironically, if I go to
http://www.ipv6porn.co.nz/ I DO NOT see the free porn on the phone,
indicating that Sprint's IPv6->IPv4 gateways are NOT connected to
the IPv6 Internet. What morons!
A great many laymen have cell phones nowadays.
> >>2) How can the transition be simplified?
> > It can't. Changing a big network that carries millions of dollars
> > worth of traffic every day is never simple.
> Ok, I'll accept that answer for now. My gut tells me, however, that
> simply not enough thought has gone into it.
How do you eat an elephant? A bit at a time.
> It might be good for society if lots of ISPs go bankrupt
> > because they hit a brick wall and are unable to grow their networks
> > two to three years from now, just as the economic recovery picks up
> > steam. We don't need everybody to do the right thing. In
> fact, if only
> > a dozen national/regional ISPs do the right thing, it will
> probably be
> > good enough because they will snap up the assets of their
> > in three years and roll out more of their successful IPv6
> I totally agree. I am completely against small businesses and the
> innovation they bring to the market-place.
Don't be foolish. The smaller ISPs have it a lot easier to migrate
> Obviously nobody on this list
> cares about
> establishing simple market-based incentives to get IPv6 moving.
We already have them. It's called "use IPv6 post-runout or you will
go out of business" Seems pretty much of an incentive to me.
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