[arin-ppml] Some observations on the differences in the various transfer policy proposals

Tom Vest tvest at pch.net
Mon Oct 20 07:16:09 EDT 2008

On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:35 AM, Geoff Huston wrote:

> We certainly differ in perspective, thats true.
> I'd rather not write a 1,000 word response - this list is already in  
> overload in terms of reading matter, so I'll limit myself to 150  
> words, and  simply state that I do not see this situation within the  
> parameters of the analogies you are drawing here.

I know that you don't agree. But you didn't agree in 1994 either. In  
fact, all of this sounds like the same arguments made against the  
establishment of open, transparent, not-for-profit RIRs in the first  

> As  far as I can see when all thats left to the RIRs in IPv4 in the  
> registry function then it seems rather self-defeating to me to start  
> imposing all kinds of constraints and conditions on write access to  
> the registry. The most natural response in such situation in the  
> face of such constraints and additional overheads is for folk to  
> head to a more accommodating registry. And I don't think that is a  
> desireable outcome.
> But you see it differently.

You are mistaken. I don't see more "constraints and conditions and  
overhead" as a desirable outcome. I do see great benefit to preserving  
the power to balance unavoidable constraints and overhead against  
changing technological circumstances by means of our own open and  
transparent self-governance mechanisms. You appear to believe that the  
exhaustion of IPv4 provides a persuasive excuse that none of those  
constraints apply anymore, even though quite a few people are aware,  
e.g., that IPv6 exists -- and even more people will be learning about  
it if the industry elects to conveniently pursue a strategy of  
permanent addressing scarcity over one of indefinite addressing  

To paraphrase someone with a far better command of the power of brevity:

"One may choose to ignore the fundamental technical issues, but this  
doesn't change the fundamental property of those issues."


But you still see it differently... fair enough.



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