[arin-ppml] Why not NAT for Dorms (Was: Suggestion: charging for IPv4 space)
michael at rancid.berkeley.edu
Tue Oct 21 20:58:30 EDT 2008
On 10/21/08 17:43, David Farmer wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2008 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> For myself I do not understand why all of these academic
>> users keep throwing up examples of student dormotories
>> that chew up vast blocks of IPv4. Why does ANY student that
>> is getting Internet connectivity for free from the college
>> expect to get a public IPv4 number?
Because it's not free. They pay for connectivity like everyone else and
we are their ISP. Which leads to Dave's point:
> 5. Competition - If students move out of the dorms to get real IPs from
> Comcast so all there games and other stuff work then we get a bad
> reputation. Students actually take into account the wiredness of a school
> when selecting where to go now. That's at least as good as of a reason to
> consider than if we are party school or not, dude!!
> 6. Why should Comcast users expect a real IP address from Comcast? It is
> really the same questions.
> I'll stop here, but I could keep going on and on...
Ultimately, I expect to have our wireless nets and possibly eventually
the residence halls using NAT for v4 while giving them globally-routable
v6 addresses. The other option is to give them v6 only and use whatever
flavor of NAT-PT we ultimately accept as a community. But that's a ways
But I still think NAT sucks. And it sucks just as much in the residence
halls as it does anywhere else. (I guess that could be Dave's #7.)
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